Pyra without decent web browser?

[netcat]

My concern would be the speed and memory requirements. And of typical ad-drenched websites not simple retro forums

 

[jedi23]

All commercial websites I tested work nice, smooth and fast! It's a real pleasure
Needless to say that you can't expect same performance with 50 open tabs like on a desktop environment...

 

[asimov-solensan]

Thanks for the link. I do prefer firefox and the launchpad build works much better than the one in the debian official repo.

 

[netcat]

What do you guys think of brave (browser)?

 

[gpsqueeek]

The one that replaces the ads with its own ones? Never tried it, I want a navigator that displays what is expected (which does not include ads at all in my case).
Well I still don't have a Pyra anyway.
You're welcome for this useless comment huh

 

[netcat]

Just realised it's based on chrome not mozilla. nevermind.

 

[gpsqueeek]

Just realised it's based on chrome not mozilla. nevermind.

Yup, not much choice if you want to avoid Google's web engine, unfortunately :-(

 

[ClockworkCoder]

Yup, not much choice if you want to avoid Google's web engine, unfortunately :-(

There is one that's originally from SerenityOS, albeit not mature yet.

The Ladybird browser project

 

[netcat]

The browser wars.... Another war of attrition.

 

[ClockworkCoder]

The browser wars.... Another war of attrition

It's less about "browser wars" now, but more about http "standards" bring an utter train wreck and only getting worse, especially with Google et al trying to DRM and monetise the entire web (and passing it off as adding "security").

In an ideal world, in my opinion, no individual company should ever (have had) more than a 30 percent influence/hold on any single mainstream tech in use.

 

[kuru]

The Digital Services Act isn't about to do us any favors either. It too is passed under the guise of "online safety", but will mean zero tolerance for opinions that aren't mainstream-compatible. Orwell would love it.
We're living in interesting times.

 

[jedi23]

Does anyone know where still to get it and how to get the last working Vivaldi release for buster?

 

[PowerGod]

Does anyone know where still to get it and how to get the last working Vivaldi release for buster?

Maybe here you can find something ?

Old Versions of Vivaldi | Vivaldi Browser

Although we highly recommend using the latest version of Vivaldi, you can download old versions of the browser for Mac, Windows and Linux here.

vivaldi.com

 

[netcat]

Does Pyra support any sandboxed package managers eg snap or flatpak?
I'm a fan of this type of thing.

 

[jedi23]

Does Pyra support any sandboxed package managers eg snap or flatpak?

Yes, no problemo.

$ sudo apt install flatpak snapd
$ sudo snap install core snap-store
$ flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

 

[netcat]

Can’t we just use that then to run newer versions of certain* software without touching the underlying os?

 

[morrowmech]

Can’t we just use that then to run newer versions of certain* software without touching the underlying os?

Thanks you added a new thing for me to test out on my copper Pyra.


flatpak + snap use lots of disk space. So I'm curious to see how much impact they have on the embedded 32GB Pyra storage.

 

[matzesu]

I think from the 32GB the Pyra got, whe should have easely 20 gb free space, our Debian is not that big, the Image of Bookworm is 720 mb

If flatpak and snap got every package allready on your Drive, then, perhaps the 32 gb are much to small..

 

[jedi23]

Thanks you added a new thing for me to test out on my copper Pyra.


flatpak + snap use lots of disk space. So I'm curious to see how much impact they have on the embedded 32GB Pyra storage.

The disk space is negligible when you boot from a SD/mircoSD card, I am more concerned about the performance.
If you're testing web browsers via Flatpak or Snap, can you report how they perform compared to browsers installed from the repository?

At least, we can still use Mosaic, the timeless browser.
It compiles well on the Pyra

GitHub - alandipert/ncsa-mosaic: NCSA Mosaic 2.7

NCSA Mosaic 2.7. Contribute to alandipert/ncsa-mosaic development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[morrowmech]

The disk space is negligible when you boot from a SD/mircoSD Card, I am more concerned about the performance.
If you're testing web browsers via Flatpak or Snap, can you report how they perform compared to browsers installed from the repository?

At least, we can still use Mosaic, the timeless browser.
It compiles well on the Pyra

GitHub - alandipert/ncsa-mosaic: NCSA Mosaic 2.7

NCSA Mosaic 2.7. Contribute to alandipert/ncsa-mosaic development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Everyone forgets Lynx.

And if you want the best of Lynx + modern web browsers, Linux Magazine clued me into Carbonyl existing.

GitHub - fathyb/carbonyl: Chromium running inside your terminal

Chromium running inside your terminal. Contribute to fathyb/carbonyl development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com