cosurgi
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Well, at least this is the official forum, see http://openpandora.org/forum.phpkrooked said:
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Poll: Do You Like Keybord Font.
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cosurgi said:Well, at least this is the official forum, see http://openpandora.org/forum.phpkrooked said:
meaning we are most important!
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162 posts. That's hilarious. A little bizarre, even. I might as well throw my hat in the ring!
+1 to a clean keyboard with Compose/AltGr. I need to learn to use those.
+1 to Rexlia: it's cute. It'll get old fast, but that's OK.
BTW, plain boring business fonts are there for a reason. If it has no style, it isn't going out of style. If it's plain, it's least likely to trip people up when they are using it in sub-optimal lighting conditions or if they have poor eyesight to begin with. Also, plainer letters will degrade better. I have rubbed out many letters on several keyboards. I imagine the extra flourishes on fancy letters will become increasingly confusing as bits of the letter are rubbed out with use. Hard coating or no! I'm assuming/hoping that I won't be using the Pandora's tiny keyboard enough to wear out the letters. But, it being non-standard and all, it sure would be tricky if I did.
+1 to a clean keyboard with Compose/AltGr. I need to learn to use those.
+1 to Rexlia: it's cute. It'll get old fast, but that's OK.
BTW, plain boring business fonts are there for a reason. If it has no style, it isn't going out of style. If it's plain, it's least likely to trip people up when they are using it in sub-optimal lighting conditions or if they have poor eyesight to begin with. Also, plainer letters will degrade better. I have rubbed out many letters on several keyboards. I imagine the extra flourishes on fancy letters will become increasingly confusing as bits of the letter are rubbed out with use. Hard coating or no! I'm assuming/hoping that I won't be using the Pandora's tiny keyboard enough to wear out the letters. But, it being non-standard and all, it sure would be tricky if I did.
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what kind of moron would prefer to get his pandora a month earlier as opposed to having a keyboard layout?danjh0 said:
Are you so shortsighted you can only see getting it a month earlier? Because, why would it matter if you had it a month earlier if it was entirely unenjoyable to use because of a shitty keyboard layout?
Anyway, I don't think the problems the font. I couldn't care less, just put a nice sans font or a pixelly one and it would be fine, but even the current one wouldnt bother me. its the layout i take issues with.
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lulzfish
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Webdings should be made available as soon as possible as a special keymat you can install yourself.
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no thanks
+1carlgeorge said:
german speaker here. me and nearly all my friends prefer us layout even on native german keyboards. i never use umlauts and if i really need them they are easy enough to access.
i plead for a programmer friendly keyboard. everyone will profit from that. plus for easily accesible alt and altgr keys!
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hch said:+1carlgeorge said:
german speaker here. me and nearly all my friends prefer us layout even on native german keyboards. i never use umlauts and if i really need them they are easy enough to access.
i plead for a programmer friendly keyboard. everyone will profit from that. plus for easily accesible alt and altgr keys!
In Finland we reeaaally need ä and ö, nobody would understand ae or oe. So there is need for those
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I'm surprised at this point that no one has asked for a Dvorak layout yet Just kidding.
More to the point, all the keyboards I know have simple sans serif fonts on them. Most books look best with Serif fonts, machines look best with sans serif. Royalty-free, simple and sober sans serif with no particular design artifacts are IMHO best, remember you'll be looking at the keyboard often, you don't want to get bored of the font...
There is a wonderful documentary on Helvetica - a sans serif font - , if you like fonts!
Just kidding.More to the point, all the keyboards I know have simple sans serif fonts on them. Most books look best with Serif fonts, machines look best with sans serif. Royalty-free, simple and sober sans serif with no particular design artifacts are IMHO best, remember you'll be looking at the keyboard often, you don't want to get bored of the font...
There is a wonderful documentary on Helvetica - a sans serif font - , if you like fonts!
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Yes, make it helvetica neue.
I didn't have time to read this entire thread, but here's some further reading for someone:
http://aaronfalloon.com/programming-fonts/
I like Courier New and Consolas!
http://aaronfalloon.com/programming-fonts/
I like Courier New and Consolas!
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+1Gaeryc said:In Finland we reeaaally need ä and ö, nobody would understand ae or oe. So there is need for those
Stay strong ED
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i would have prefered arial or something similar. i struggled to work out the difference between "Wery simple" and "Minimalistic".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts
+1 !!!
Seriously, it will be a bad decision to put those characters. I'm actually very surprised the team could even think about it.
I would find it quite stupid..
Using the compose key is totally logical :rolleyes:
But in fact, as long as i can type my "~,/,$, {}, (), .,;" (linux..) easily, i'm ok.
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White Demon
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Didn't we settle all of this six months ago?
From Cosurgi's poll back then, it became clear that most people either didn't want or need the extra characters. That only seems to be strengthened by most of the people posting on this thread echoing the exact same thing.
Cosurgi's keyboard layout easily beats ED's, especially if ED's has errors. Cosurgi's layout still seems the simplest and most popular (except I personally think , and . should have their own keys, which is why I preferred Kagato's layout, or Cosurgi's alternate layout).
It seems rather strange (and silly) that ED is ignoring what between 60 - 85% of the community had already settled on to go with something different (sure the poll wasn't official, but it was rather unanimous, I would have thought ED/Craig/MWeston and the other devs would have taken notice).
Oh, and please, no glow in the dark keys. Laying in bed, in the dark, watching my favourite animes or whatever (no porn on my P thankyou), I don't want to be distracted by glowing keys.
From Cosurgi's poll back then, it became clear that most people either didn't want or need the extra characters. That only seems to be strengthened by most of the people posting on this thread echoing the exact same thing.
Cosurgi's keyboard layout easily beats ED's, especially if ED's has errors. Cosurgi's layout still seems the simplest and most popular (except I personally think , and . should have their own keys, which is why I preferred Kagato's layout, or Cosurgi's alternate layout).
It seems rather strange (and silly) that ED is ignoring what between 60 - 85% of the community had already settled on to go with something different (sure the poll wasn't official, but it was rather unanimous, I would have thought ED/Craig/MWeston and the other devs would have taken notice).
Oh, and please, no glow in the dark keys. Laying in bed, in the dark, watching my favourite animes or whatever (no porn on my P thankyou), I don't want to be distracted by glowing keys.
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*number pulled out of air and probably not accurateGaeryc said:In Finland we reeaaally need ä and ö, nobody would understand ae or oe. So there is need for those
You obviously haven't been reading the thread. There are more extra and accented characters that are needed by various languages than there are keys on the keyboard. You say "if there is a key available" but there are not enough keys available. Not enough to please everyone, of course. So why should Finland get it's characters, characters that 80%* of the community won't use, before some other country, which again, 80% of the community won't use?
That is the crux of the debate: if you can't support them all (you can't) why support any of them?
One more thing: in order to access the extra or accented characters, you'd need to hit a Fn key combo anyway, so why not just have the AltGr and/or Compose key and solve everyone's problem at once? It's intuitive what keys produce what accented character, so there's no need to print them on the keyboard. Save those Fn key combos for something that is more likely to be used globally, like extra puctuation or currencies.
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That is the crux of the debate: if you can't support them all (you can't) why support any of them?
How stupid is that? Ok, lets sacrifice an Ä for an È. Better this way, than leaving the keys blank :rolleyes:
That is the crux of the debate: if you can't support them all (you can't) why support any of them?
How stupid is that? Ok, lets sacrifice an Ä for an È. Better this way, than leaving the keys blank :rolleyes:
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I really like that Liberation Sans in a bold or bold italic.
How about a poll on having two final polls:
One for Font
Second for Layout
How about a poll on having two final polls:
One for Font
Second for Layout
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You havn't seen Cosurgi or Kagato's keyboard layouts which dominated a 6 month long poll and discussion then, have you?mali said:
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