PGS Windows 10 gaming handheld - GPD WIN competitor


So there is a phone that has 6 gb of ram and it can become a pc and it's powerfull I think Its like the pgs lite in power it's called simetium tell me if it fits in this
To me it's just a phone, no built on physical keyboard or game controls...
 
So there is a phone that has 6 gb of ram and it can become a pc and it's powerfull I think Its like the pgs lite in power it's called simetium tell me if it fits in this

To me it's just a phone, no built on physical keyboard or game controls...

Well if u see the first trailer it has a keyboard

I think that's just a dock for the phone. Not an actual part of it. Maybe it should be limited to just those that include physical controls, but that's my criteria.

Honestly, I would probably be happy if someone made something like the Xperia Play with modern hardware, but that's also just my preference. (I also realize that doesn't match my criteria for x86 gaming, but it's rather an alternative: Either portable x86 gaming handheld or gaming smart phone with physical controls.)
 
Gpd xd but it's not a phone so

Right. Didn't meet what I was looking for on the phone front nor x86 on the stand-alone handheld front. Although that would be a closer comparison to the other standalone handhelds. While it doesn't have a keyboard, it does have a full Android OS that doesn't necessarily need one. Although that would open it up to any Android tablet with gaming controls. I think that could fill a list in and of itself. So probably best to exclude the Android-only handhelds.

I'm thinking these are the qualities that would make the list:
  • Full desktop OS support (Linux, Windows, etc.), but not just Android as there are tons of those.
  • Built-in physical keyboard and/or gaming controls
Things like LTE, phone support, bluetooth, ports, etc. are all good to mention, but perhaps not necessary (well, maybe at least USB). Anything else come to mind?
 
Right. Didn't meet what I was looking for on the phone front nor x86 on the stand-alone handheld front. Although that would be a closer comparison to the other standalone handhelds. While it doesn't have a keyboard, it does have a full Android OS that doesn't necessarily need one. Although that would open it up to any Android tablet with gaming controls. I think that could fill a list in and of itself. So probably best to exclude the Android-only handhelds.

I'm thinking these are the qualities that would make the list:
  • Full desktop OS support (Linux, Windows, etc.), but not just Android as there are tons of those.
  • Built-in physical keyboard and/or gaming controls
Things like LTE, phone support, bluetooth, ports, etc. are all good to mention, but perhaps not necessary (well, maybe at least USB). Anything else come to mind?

The Pyra isn't just a game device though. It is also a portable general use computer - which is a major draw for me.

Maybe a 'Capable of self contained stand-alone two plus hours of batery operation and must fit in a decent size pants pocket and must include two of these three'
A. Full Desktop OS (Linux, Windows, etc) (Chromebooks? Android is actually getting close in some implementations...)
B. Built in physical keyboard and/or gaming controls
C. At least 6 expansion/connection points (USB ports + SD/microSD ports + Ethernet/802.11/Bluetooth/3G/4G + HDMI/Video)
Capable of self contained stand-alone batery operation.

For the 'general use portable computer' side, I'm willing to set an exception for the lack of physical controls for the Gole1 or the lack of gaming controls for an OQO or the lower expansion and connection options on the GPD Win. The Pyra is the only device I know of that would qualify for all categories though.
 
U cold make your own thing with a raspberry pi and some other stuff but I'm not sure If that's what u would like
i've mentioned it elsewhere, but if you have ben heck's resources, you'd make something that looks at best like this:

pretty cool, but not something that could go with you on a plane...
 
The Pyra isn't just a game device though. It is also a portable general use computer - which is a major draw for me.

Maybe a 'Capable of self contained stand-alone two plus hours of batery operation and must fit in a decent size pants pocket and must include two of these three'
A. Full Desktop OS (Linux, Windows, etc) (Chromebooks? Android is actually getting close in some implementations...)
B. Built in physical keyboard and/or gaming controls
C. At least 6 expansion/connection points (USB ports + SD/microSD ports + Ethernet/802.11/Bluetooth/3G/4G + HDMI/Video)
Capable of self contained stand-alone batery operation.

For the 'general use portable computer' side, I'm willing to set an exception for the lack of physical controls for the Gole1 or the lack of gaming controls for an OQO or the lower expansion and connection options on the GPD Win. The Pyra is the only device I know of that would qualify for all categories though.

Fair enough. It all comes back to what you are looking for more: Portable computer or portable gaming device. As there are plenty of Android-only gaming devices, I was trying to keep them from blowing up the list, but I do acknowledge that they could serve as an alternative to desktop computing with the right apps. But then so could phones if you make enough concessions.

So then I'll revise the list:
  • Pocketable/portable
  • Self contained stand-alone battery operation
  • Full Modern Desktop OS (Linux, Windows, maybe Chrome, etc. Just not Android as that deserves its own list.)
  • Built in physical keyboard and/or gaming controls
  • MicroSD expansion
  • USB
  • WiFi
  • Bluetooth
  • 3G/4G/LTE wireless
  • HDMI/Video out
I still think some of the bottom items could be more optional depending on what other criteria are met. I also specified for modern OS as to avoid older netbooks running anything below Windows 7.
 
I'm thinking these are the qualities that would make the list:
  • Full desktop OS support (Linux, Windows, etc.), but not just Android as there are tons of those.
  • Built-in physical keyboard and/or gaming controls
Things like LTE, phone support, bluetooth, ports, etc. are all good to mention, but perhaps not necessary (well, maybe at least USB). Anything else come to mind?
Lots of them, from the 90s on. Looks like your most recent revised list knocks most of those out as many are using older OSs. Perhaps the ones people were putting Linux on could fit in your list, so it is still too many for me to bother looking them all up.
 
So I think the only way a android device could go on here is by having a keyboard with trackpad in it and putting andronium though andronium is kind of new
[doublepost=1471510457,1471510364][/doublepost]But it's still very limited so
[doublepost=1471511072][/doublepost]Also is price a limit?
 
price is definitely a hindrance for some people, but lots of us on the forums will pay for good linux/open source support.

i remember a review by a kid, who was looking at the pandora. he said that he liked the device, but just couldn't get over the fact that it was linux. he was so used to windows, and he couldn't learn anything new (and said as much!). and i'm thinking, you're all of 14 years old, kid! you are not an old geezer yet. (and even some of those like linux, too.)
 
Lots of them, from the 90s on. Looks like your most recent revised list knocks most of those out as many are using older OSs. Perhaps the ones people were putting Linux on could fit in your list, so it is still too many for me to bother looking them all up.

Do you think I need to set a timeframe within the last 5 years or so? Maybe less?

So I think the only way a android device could go on here is by having a keyboard with trackpad in it and putting andronium though andronium is kind of new
[doublepost=1471510457,1471510364][/doublepost]But it's still very limited so
[doublepost=1471511072][/doublepost]Also is price a limit?

From an initial lookup, Andronium currently requires the phone to be charging and appears to cast the screen to the monitor. So it doesn't quite fit as it's not running off battery and not entirely self-contained then.

price is definitely a hindrance for some people, but lots of us on the forums will pay for good linux/open source support.

i remember a review by a kid, who was looking at the pandora. he said that he liked the device, but just couldn't get over the fact that it was linux. he was so used to windows, and he couldn't learn anything new (and said as much!). and i'm thinking, you're all of 14 years old, kid! you are not an old geezer yet. (and even some of those like linux, too.)

People learned iOS and Android without issue, granted they are simpler for the user. I almost jumped on the Pandora back then, but could only afford one gizmo and ended up getting an Android smartphone instead. One big reason I chose it was that the popularity of Android and that it was an ecosystem of devices implied more apps and compatibility while the Pandora would be more focused on just the Pandora and ports of apps to it. Learning Linux didn't bother me so much that most of the apps and games I play are on Windows x86. While Linux x86 support is getting better, it would still require additional porting for Linux ARM. Hence my interest now in a Windows x86 handheld (or alternatively an Android phone with gaming controls to extend that functionality without needing to carry around a separate gamepad).
 
I'm an old Geezer, used to Windows, who built his first true Linux game the other day. There is no age limit to learning!
...and your first Desktop Linux port is working well too! :)

Well since you made stuff for Caanoo and Pandora, I wouldn't call it your first Linux game.
Hopefully some day Dino Defense will be complete and multi platform (as well as Guru Logic Champs and your other games).
 
True, but it's my first non-handheld Linux specific game.

If I had all the time in the world, every game I've ever done (or yet to complete) would be multi-platform and completed to my own personal satisfaction. Sadly, time is short. :(
 
Fair enough. It all comes back to what you are looking for more: Portable computer or portable gaming device. As there are plenty of Android-only gaming devices, I was trying to keep them from blowing up the list, but I do acknowledge that they could serve as an alternative to desktop computing with the right apps. But then so could phones if you make enough concessions.

So then I'll revise the list:
  • Pocketable/portable
  • Self contained stand-alone battery operation
  • Full Modern Desktop OS (Linux, Windows, maybe Chrome, etc. Just not Android as that deserves its own list.)
  • Built in physical keyboard and/or gaming controls
  • MicroSD expansion
  • USB
  • WiFi
  • Bluetooth
  • 3G/4G/LTE wireless
  • HDMI/Video out
I still think some of the bottom items could be more optional depending on what other criteria are met. I also specified for modern OS as to avoid older netbooks running anything below Windows 7.

Why only include microSD in the list? Dual full sized SD slots is a big thing for many of us. It increases the on-device storage capabilities to insane amounts - well over a terabyte - AND lets us transfer/copy data from one SD card (pulled from a camera) to another SD card without having to search for dongles.

Put another way, the expansion ports and multiple SD slots on the Pyra means that it can also take on the roles otherwise covered by items like compute sticks, Gole1, micro set top boxes, micro laptops, chrome books, etc...

The Pyra is a convergence device. It will cover many many roles beyond gaming.
 
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