Bukkit, I respect that you want an official answer to your questions about what will happen with your preorder money if a Pandora2 happens or not. At this point it just looks like you won't get what you want - an exact, detailed decision on future happening.
Thanks for your post, Franko. I have to sigh a little though, sorry. Well, *sigh*.
No. I'm not asking, again, not asking, never asking, and again for good measure, because I only wrote it ten times, for an "exact, detailed decision". Continued below, in the answer to WizardStan.
I'm just trying to help Bukkit make this seemingly agonizing decision. :rolleyes:
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No. it's not too agonizing. I'm just not completing the survey like it is, which doesn't cost me much.
I'm just going to "automatically" assume that Bukkit isn't Bill Gates, as he seems to be spending quite a lot of time on the details of this survey...
Nono, and it's not details, but I appreciate your concern. Well, alright, I'm
not Bill Gates. There. I'm just stubborn (and feel like I
might be asked for my consent to be nicked, which I happen to dislike).
Again and again (and again): I'm not asking for details. Funny how often one has to repeat that.
Then what are these?
Hunh? What are... these details I am not asking for? :blink: Seems impossible to answer. Especially by me.
- Am I expected to pay the difference between the P1 price I paid and the P2 price?
- Any plans on what happens, in terms of compensation, if there is no P2?
Looks like you asking for details to me, but perhaps we have differing definitions of "details".
Most definitely differing definitions. The first question actually derived from the discussion here and is not even mine. I already said I'd be willing to pay, so it's none of my concern. However, it's the concern of other posters in the same situation. Having said that, I'd still maintain: This is not a detail. A question that broad, asking for something as fluffy as an "expectation", easily answerable by "Yes", "No", "I guess": Hardly a detail there.
The second question would be quite as easily answerable by sth along the lines of: "No. We'd try to compensate you somehow. We are not planning to keep your money without at least trying to give you something you might like". Respective: "Yes. Atm we don't believe we can compensate you in case the P2 doesn't happen." Does something like that really, I mean really, look like an impossibly communicateable statement? A state of resolution impossible to be in at this stage? An incredibly detailed masterplan? A reliable prediction of an unknown future?
Well, then. Doesn't to me.
The question on the survey, not the question you asked, is effectively "based on the information we currently have and absolutely no additional information, would you or would you not be willing to wait for a P2 and put your preorder money towards it in some, currently unknown, way with all the potential risks it might come with, or do you want the guaranteed P1?" I didn't "pull it from somewhere", I extrapolated it from the survey and applied it to the situation.
And my answer, still, is: "Without a tiny bit of in my personal opinion easily accessible additional information I see myself unable to answer that survey of yours. You'll either give me this small tidbit on your intentions in that matter or you'll have to make do without my answer."
There are two types of people: those that can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are two types of people: those that can go from data and end up in a strange world, made up mainly by their imagination.
The quote I posted is a joke. I said "there are two types" and then listed one type. The joke is that there is a second type and if you are in the first category you can figure it out. If you have to ask "what is the second type" then you fall into the second category: "those that can't extrapolate from incomplete data".
The answer I posted was a joke. I said "there are two types" and then listed one type. Then I took it somewhere else. The joke is that it was your joke and then I made it my joke. If you think I don't understand your joke and then explain your joke when I ride your joke in a different direction, then you're in a strange world, made up mainly by your imagination.
It is especially frustrating that you are refusing to do this since there is absolutely no risk to you:
I happen to kinda slightly doubt that. The survey is coupled with my order data, which shouldn't be necessary for a mere survey at all. It could be easily interpreted as a declaration of will to forfeit my money (as most people seem to believe that's going to be the case). And I'm not willing to do that. Good thing is, I don't have to, either.
every day that you waste is another day that passes with an incomplete survey, until finally Craig has waited long enough and closes it without your input at all. Your choice: make a decision here and now, or don't answer the survey at all.
I don't waste anyone's time except mine. I'll either get a tiny bit of additional information or not answer that survey. That decision has been made and communicated weeks ago. Craig can close his survey whenever he likes.
And: Craig has his survey results so far and he has my declaration of a general interest in that option through the sheer existence of this thread. That's not only more than what I seem to get, it's also everything you purport he wants, isn't it?
