Our New Machine, Pandora

[Ravnos]

You just have to browse the web whilst on the throne, it's a necessity (and its smaller than a magazine to boot!)

Plus, it's less conspicuous than a stack of Hustlers.

 

[Exophase]

render 3D like a GameCube

WHERE are you getting this? I hope you're not misquoting me because I said it might be around the same level as Gamecube in terms of CPU power. We don't really know about the 3D (but it'll definitely be more capable than what the i.MX31 has so we know it can do more than those videos.. but honestly those videos only show so much)

 

[A_SN]

Ooh, I want to stream a moderately good show on a console that doesn't really exist yet using a program that hasn't even been written.

Well, you can stream any damn show you want (I for one think I'll want to watch the TV I receive on my router and thus watch MTV or that french channel that runs Next, Exposed and The Simple Life), the console doesn't sound like vapourware at all, and the program in question exists and is available for the platform in question http://wiki.videolan.org/ARM-XCompile#Cros...based_platforms

You just have to browse the web whilst on the throne, it's a necessity (and its smaller than a magazine to boot!)

I can already see this coming : "<RandomIRCdude> Hey guys! Guess where I'm typing this from! [...] Oh crap, if only I had a remote controlled robot to fetch more toilet paper, I could use that right now.."

Personally, I think when that happens I'll be more willing to go to the bathroom, as for now I don't go there too much because I have to suspend all my online activity. I hope there also will be some sort of mod to the console so that it's waterproof, cause I could use some motivation to have showers more often ;-)

render 3D like a GameCube

WHERE are you getting this? I hope you're not misquoting me because I said it might be around the same level as Gamecube in terms of CPU power.


Oops . So, is it more likely to be better or not than the GameCube?

By the way, I hereby declare channel #craiginator on EFnet the official (errr, not) channel for Craiginator-related discussion and speculation, and sharing our fantasies of playing such things as Quake 3 online while satisfying our aforementionned natural needs.

 

[Squidge]

On the GP2X, you're glad to play Quake 1 and games from the early 90's. On the Craiginator, you'll watch YouTube, chat on MSN and play Quake 3 online and VNC to your home computer so you can choose the music while you're busy sitting on the toilet seat. Oh, did I mention streaming the latest episode of Prison Break from your home computer using VLC? Yeah, that too, even on the toilet seat!

Actually, you can do all the above on both systems, just as some things may be slower on the one than the other

 

[Dubya']

I just wanted to show some OpenGL demos running on my imx31 handheld. They look amazing and the OMAP3 is a much stronger platform. We are going to have some real fun with the craiginator when it is released!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpAj0jHglGw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG7EDaZpyOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkx18kruRJs


Nice! Perhaps that's how Craig could know the following in his response to my suggestion back in Jan 07:

Dubya'
Jan 29 2007, 07:12 PM

I'd love to see someone, anyone make available an open, Linux-based handheld based upon the Freescale i.MX31 SoC:

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/p...sp?code=i.MX31#

The chip is US$20.77 in 1K+ quantities. Even if GPH used the same LCD, case, ports, slots, etc. to save money and just updated the circuit board to use this chip and just slapped on a new label (GP3X?), I'd buy one in an instant. Of course, there'd be some costs involved for them to do this (firmware rewrite, PCB design, etc.), but I think such a powerful open source handheld would attract a lot of attention.

craigix
Jan 29 2007, 07:18 PM

^ it looks a bit dated to me (well for a new system, think 8 months dev time etc.), plus i've heard that it is a lot slower than it appears from people who have worked with it.

 

[OMars]

Ooh, I want to stream a moderately good show on a console that doesn't really exist yet using a program that hasn't even been written.

Well, you can stream any damn show you want (I for one think I'll want to watch the TV I receive on my router and thus watch MTV or that french channel that runs Next, Exposed and The Simple Life), the console doesn't sound like vapourware at all, and the program in question exists and is available for the platform in question http://wiki.videolan.org/ARM-XCompile#Cros...based_platforms

I'm sorry, let me correct my mistake:

Ooh, I want to stream a moderately good show on a console that doesn't really exist yet using a program that hasn't even been compiled for it.

How does that suit you? And keep in mind that I didn't say it was vaporware, but instead I said it "doesn't really exist yet".

 

[imec]

Would you really have to use VNC to watch movies (but your probably talking about normal definition videos, which is probably smarter than encoding them) off of the internet? The current specs look like they will easily handle flash, probably even Java. Foog VNC, just watch it on the handheld. Everything is looking great, I'm just worried about the keyboard; I hate those super-soft, super-cheap tiny keyboards that have become so popular.

 

[Squidge]

Would you really have to use VNC to watch movies (but your probably talking about normal definition videos,

Using VNC to watch movies would be daft. VLC is much better for that task, and looking up, is exactly what the poster your replying to put

 

[X-Code]

So you all want to stream movies whilst sitting on the throne?...
This is getting kinda surreal... Sitting on the throne watching movies with a bumblebee in your hands... Ok, enough, it's beertime :lol:

 

[Vimacs]

would also be great to stream the movies to a tv, especially since i have a kinda high range wlan setup, i could probably watch movies from my pc while being 2 streets away, how cool is that?
Or over http from a hotpot somewhere.

 

[retroDude]

Hi guys,
I was wondering if anyone had a definite idea of how fast could the OMAP3430 be clocked at. I have found this page where it seems that it could go up to 1 GHz... Is that the speed the craiginator could be clocked at? (assuming it is of course using that processor). Here is the link:


http://www.arm.com/news/16539.html

"Proving the extensibility of the OMAP 3 architecture, we are demonstrating the ARM Cortex-A8 processor running at speeds up to 1GHz on TI’s low-power 65-nanometer (nm) technology"

I don't understand much about this stuff, i was looking at the wiki for the Craiginator, but it didn't say about clockspeed. Sorry if that has been asked/answered before, but I am really curious about the power of this little beast

 

[MWeston]

^ it looks a bit dated to me (well for a new system, think 8 months dev time etc.), plus i've heard that it is a lot slower than it appears from people who have worked with it.

He may have been referring to some WinCE demo binaries running on Freescale's ADS board with 800x600 LCD's. The DDR RAM, network chip and compact flash/IDE don't share the same data bus, but they do share address pins so heavy network traffic and/or external data access while refreshing such a large panel causes tearing in the displayed image when it too is constantly changing (ie. video, changing application windows). In my design, nothing shares those pins with the DDR and the panel is smaller so it is quite smooth.

Hi guys,
I was wondering if anyone had a definite idea of how fast could the OMAP3430 be clocked at. I have found this page where it seems that it could go up to 1 GHz... Is that the speed the craiginator could be clocked at? (assuming it is of course using that processor). Here is the link:

http://www.arm.com/news/16539.html

"Proving the extensibility of the OMAP 3 architecture, we are demonstrating the ARM Cortex-A8 processor running at speeds up to 1GHz on TI’s low-power 65-nanometer (nm) technology"

I don't understand much about this stuff, i was looking at the wiki for the Craiginator, but it didn't say about clockspeed. Sorry if that has been asked/answered before, but I am really curious about the power of this little beast



Whoa, I know ARM says that the Cortex-A8 can do 1GHz but I didn't notice they were referring to TI when they said it! I honestly don't know what the maximum speed the 3430 can handle is, but once lots of software is written and completely stable I plan on overclocking it until it begs for mercy! B)

 

[atomicthumbs]

hotpot

Are we still talking about toilets?

Anyways, I would really like to know the clockspeed. The wiki needs love!

 

[A_SN]

Ooh, I want to stream a moderately good show on a console that doesn't really exist yet using a program that hasn't even been compiled for it.

Actually depending on the machine's "firmware" it may already be compiled for it, that's if it libraries are compatible with Debian ARM ones, and so you would find that already compiled VLC in the Debian ARM repository.

Hi guys,
I was wondering if anyone had a definite idea of how fast could the OMAP3430 be clocked at. I have found this page where it seems that it could go up to 1 GHz... Is that the speed the craiginator could be clocked at?

Congrats on finding info about it, it's far from easy. Yeah, it seems that although the default clock of the OMAP3430 might be 550 MHz, it could be clocked as high as 1 GHz, and I heard the A8 Cortex could go as high as 1.1 GHz, which I speculate could be possible considered the 3430 is the top of the high end, it seems, doesn't seem like there's been any official statement about this (besides what I've read on the page you linked to).

Also, as I said before, sooner or later the OMAP 3430 will move to 45 nm. Would miniuturasation (sp!) allow greater overclocking?

I was also wondering, what about RAM? How much can the OMAP3430 take and are we still going for 128 MB?

Anyways, I would really like to know the clockspeed. The wiki needs love!

It seems like all we know is in what I and retroDude said...

 

[Vimacs]

uhm, hotspot of course

I think 800mhz is an realistic estimate, but 1ghz+ would be awesome

 

[OMars]

Ooh, I want to stream a moderately good show on a console that doesn't really exist yet using a program that hasn't even been compiled for it.

Actually depending on the machine's "firmware" it may already be compiled for it, that's if it libraries are compatible with Debian ARM ones, and so you would find that already compiled VLC in the Debian ARM repository.

Recompiling is always necessary when porting something to a brand new system. I guarantee you that it won't work right out of the box. I doubt this console's firmware will be perfectly compatible with a current version of linux.

Even if it does run, it's going to suck in one way or another. It could be the fact that you can't control anything, because the programmer didn't plan on having it use this console's button configuration, or it could be that the specifications on this system are not compatible in some way.

Did I miss something?

 

[retroDude]

uhm, hotspot of course

I think 800mhz is an realistic estimate, but 1ghz+ would be awesome

That would be soooo cool! .... Can't wait when Craigix will be revealing the final specs!!!
Maybe i could finally have the "perfect" portable amiga :rolleyes:

 

[God Ginrai]

By the way, I hereby declare channel #craiginator on EFnet the official (errr, not) channel for Craiginator-related discussion and speculation, and sharing our fantasies of playing such things as Quake 3 online while satisfying our aforementionned natural needs.

You should try on irc.initialized.org. It's a great server.

-God Ginrai

 

[A_SN]

Recompiling is always necessary when porting something to a brand new system. I guarantee you that it won't work right out of the box.

Yes it will, if the console runs Debian ARM, for example. You and your certainities..

QUOTE
Even if it does run, it's going to suck in one way or another. It could be the fact that you can't control anything, because the programmer didn't plan on having it use this console's button configuration, or it could be that the specifications on this system are not compatible in some way.



Oh God, why do I have to read such inepsies. It will have a touchscreen, which makes up for the mouse, a keyboard, and it'll run on X. Kind of like, mmmh let me think... your average PC under Ubuntu?

Any more inepsies to add?

You should try on irc.initialized.org. It's a great server.

But everybody's on EFnet already

 

[God Ginrai]

But, on iNi, you'll at least know one of the IRCops. ;P

EDIT: Although, I won't be on right now, because I am having some PC problems. -_-'

-God Ginrai