Bismuth your claim that Craigix's position has been repeatedly bleeding edge remains relevant because the claim is false. It's also relevant because top of the chart or bleeding edge SoC's is but one sub component of the unit and does not indicate that the entirety of the P2 will have this bleeding edge quality merely because the SoC does.
If I'm overextending your argument, clarify it and stick with it. It's hard to say he didn't answer you or provide you the reasons for his thought process when he most assuredly did. If you want to debate the SoC spec issue I'm game but you already quoted Ed. He said:
Well, I'm pretty sure we would choose the same SoC, as new SoCs usually won't cost more than a previous version.
The OMAP3 or DM3730 is just as expensive as a Cortex A9... so it wouldn't make sense using a lower speed one.
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It's just a general thing I was pointing out to.
I would not just grab the best available simply because it exists - I would check if an older version would make more sense in our use case.
This probably won't apply to the SoC, as mentioned, but it might to other components
Now if you want to talk about the other components, I'm game for that too but I need some data to work with. Like I said until we actually see the specs that they are working with it's hard to argue against something that hasn't happened yet.
So lets talk about this point you raised:
he still didn't answer the thread in those two posts that followed.
I'm not the guy but I'll try to answer from my perspective. [Edit: In this case my perspective was not reflective of OMAP SoC's, See below]
You're going to keep asking for hundreds (if not thousands) of engineering sample chips to sell in production hardware? You think they'll always have these huge allotments of engineering sample chips available for you? And let's say they do, have you looked at the errata on early version, never mind pre-release versions of SoCs? These get released so companies can complete their designs, not so they can be sold
No where did Craigix indicate he was going to us engineering samples to sell in production hardware (as far as I can tell). I suspect Craigix plans to use these samples for development and prototyping and not actually sell free engineering samples in devices for profit as it is both unethical [Edit: I'm in error see below. I thought you had to notify the buyer that you're using ES's], and likely cut off his supply of samples once the manufacturers got wind of it. Also it is highly unlikely that a supplier is just going to hand over hundreds if not thousands of these SoC's over to Craigix as the poster seems to think. Craigix will likely get a handful of them or so. But what do I know.
So the poster doesn't even understand whats going on and he's chewing Craigix out for the wrong reasons. I'm not sure I'd respond to that. Depends on my patience level after being repeatedly second guessed and bashed by the community. I know how that feels from experience.
Actually I was going to go through some other posts but figure I should stop and let you point out what you have issue with or what your argument is. It's true I may have missed your point. Now when I said this is where your cognitive dissonance lies. I wasn't speaking of your brain, just the phrase you used which I see was actually cognitive disconnect.
So I'll let this
that's very dense of you,
this
this
Please don't speak of cognition, you are sorely lacking it right now.
And this
Now if you had read a little more on that link I posted, Craig indeed does want to have bleeding edge specs
Pass due to possible confusion from poor wordage on my part. Hopefully the last part shows how I could have come to the misunderstanding that the discussion involved the perception that Craigix wants bleeding edge specs.
Edit:
You can actually buy and sell ES samples, the first Pandora consoles used them.
