GPD Win (x86 Computer / Palmtop)

[Klumpen]

I don't think emulated vs native would be fair to the machine emulating. I think a software title that has a native binary for both architectures, and also wasn't some cherry picked application that had optimized performance for one and not the other.

Try to find an intensive app that is both arm and x86, Windows and Linux.

ptitseb's 3D ports like Jedi Knight 2, etc... come to mind. Hopefully we'll get some of those for the Pyra as well.

 

[SNESFAN]

Don't those use GLshim? Translation layers might also skew things a bit due to slightly more work.

In fact I would stay away from anything that is OpenGL / GLes. Maybe something that uses vulkan because it's supposed to be universal cross platform.

Edit: checked vulkan wiki page, should support both GPUs in both devices.

 

[Alperoot]

I don't think that will be a fair comparison. One of the Pyra's biggest selling point is its battery whereas WIN didn't have that (iirc).

Ps: Would love to see some Minecraft footage on both devices anyways.

 

[SNESFAN]

How would comparing battery life with the same application not be fair? The battery is actually more capacity on the win, so it's at least at some level a selling point of the WIN as well. I personally would want to see that comparison because I think it would be extremely fair comparison. Do something that is CPU intensive, then do something GPU intensive, then maybe something that is neither like media playback.

 

[Alperoot]

Well, background apps eat a lot more juice in Windows, that is a fact. We also know that Windows 10 isn't optimized for GPD WIN and according to the devboard tests, Pyra will use a lot less RAM while doing work.

 

[SNESFAN]

I am still failing to see why the comparison wouldn't be fair.

Saying unfair because you think GPD hasn't made optimizations, and that the fundamental differences in Windows and Linux doesn't cause the comparison to be unfair.

Fair is comparing one product out of the box to another, taken at face value. Pairing both to the same test removing as many variables from that test as possible.

If GPD makes a shit port of Windows or has junkware or spyware installed that eats cycles then that's the situation and it should be shown. Same would go for the pyra. I think even putting Linux on the GPD and doing the test would be unfair because that's not what comes on it, even if it helped battery life, it doesn't accurately represent the most common use cases. Good info, yes, fair test, no.

 

[levi]

Something intensive might be interesting primarily to see which device throttles first. In terms of battery life, I guess something more real-world that the pyra can run without too much extra dev work like total runtime listening to music, or total time running the attract mode on something mid-80s on MAME (assuming MAME can be ported without too much trouble).

 

[almostalive]

I think running RetroArch on both devices would probably be the best test for battery life and performance on them.

 

[SNESFAN]

Some of those cores are optimized, and in some situations highly optimized for their architecture. But if you find the same core for both I think it wouldn't be a bad test, not sure about the best.

 

[vcoleiro1]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle on the Z8700 fanless prototype WIN

Even though this GPD WIN Prototype has no fan, the tester said it never got hot playing this game.

v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTY2NDczNjYzNg==.html



Some stats on the number of GPD WINs that have been pre-ordered/backed via crowdfunding sites and 3rd party stores offering pre-orders like Geekbuying etc etc

IndieGogo Backers: 2056

JD.com (China) Backers: 1438

Makuake.com Backers: 1232

3rd Party stores offering Pre-orders: Unknown

Total: 4,726 Orders via Crowdfunding and still going + Whatever Pre-orders 3rd Party stores have sold. Probably between 5200 and 5800 overall with 3rd party pre-orders

 

[levi]

That's a 2007 game that also came out on Gamecube. I guess if it can play those games without throttling that's not too bad. Mind you, is it running at full speed? The jumps and some of the other animations look a bit too floaty, but the clocks that appear seem to be ticking in actual seconds.

 

[PowerGod]

I'd love to know the battery time of it. I'm a bit scared that it will only run a couple of hours with demanding games.
It's really time someone develops a miracle battery

Yeah, almost 30 years have passed and it's the GameGear story again

 

[Klumpen]

Yeah, almost 30 years have passed and it's the GameGear story again

Maybe better batteries aren't the way to go but rather very small generators/reactors.

 

[EvilDragon]

A comparison at this point is not possible, as the Pyra doesn't even have proper power saving included yet.
The Pandora also only had a battery life of 7 - 8 hours at the beginning, and now with optimizations, it can reach 12 hours.

GPD can't optimize a lot on the WIN (as it uses stock Windows), but the Pyra can be optimized.

 

[Faust]

A comparison at this point is not possible, as the Pyra doesn't even have proper power saving included yet.
The Pandora also only had a battery life of 7 - 8 hours at the beginning, and now with optimizations, it can reach 12 hours.

GPD can't optimize a lot on the WIN (as it uses stock Windows), but the Pyra can be optimized.

Yeah I think they cannot optimize the Windows version that much, but they promised to release an optimized one so let's see how when they will release it.

 

[Alperoot]

Yeah I think they cannot optimize the Windows version that much, but they promised to release an optimized one so let's see how when they will release it.

Something like TinyOS10 could be made, but with a bit less optimization, I guess.

 

[vcoleiro1]

Windows 10 does have a battery saving tool. Amongst other things, the battery saving tool has an option that allows you to turn off un necessary background tasks

 

[ptitSeb]

Yeah like Cortana
(sorry, couldn't resist ...)

 

[SNESFAN]

I think disabling cortana would save quite a bit of battery actually. Not sure why that's a joke.

 

[ptitSeb]

I think disabling cortana would save quite a bit of battery actually. Not sure why that's a joke.

Because it cannot be fully disabled (and it will be even less "disablable" with the anniversary update).