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GPD Pocket

Discussion in 'Everything else' started by vcoleiro1, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. vcoleiro1

    vcoleiro1 Hardcore Member

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    GPD recently announced that they are contemplating launching a pure UMPC (no gaming controls) later this year and have asked the Dingoonity community for feedback on their initial rendors, specs etc. So if your interested and want to provide input - and it does need tweeking, especially the keyboard layout and power/back space positions. , the thread they started is here:

    http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-windows-devices/what-do-you-think-of-this-new-7-inch-laptop/30/

    Basically, they are looking to put together a product they have named GPD Pocket. The plan so far is for it to be a 7" UMPC running Win 10 or Ubuntu. It is planned to have a Intel Z8700 SOC, 4GB Ram, 128GB emmc and a 7" 1080p screen, Gorilla glass 3, 7000mAH battery, Aluminum body etc

    Here are some photos:

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  2. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Administrator Staff Member

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    Hmm, with a 7" screen, it's not any different to a normal netbook, is it?
     
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  3. pmprog

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    Whoa. Looks pretty nice. I'll be interested if the support Ubuntu (or some other Linux). Although, not sure I'd rule it out if it had Windows.

    Edit: Hmmm 7", I read UMPC, but yeah, 7" is more netbook size...
     
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  4. vcoleiro1

    vcoleiro1 Hardcore Member

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    The size and whether it is pocketable has been a point of discussion since they posted it. GPD are adament it will be pocketable even going as far as posting pictures of their early model of it in someones pocket. I'm still not totally convinced 100%



    The design is very fluid. I pointed out a number of issues with the keyboard layout 20 minutes ago, and GPD have just changed it to address those issues in the last 5 minutes. So it's really early days and very fluid

    They say it will be available with either (I think that's a choice) of Windows 10 or Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
     
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  5. kuru

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    The trackpoint location could improve. I'd want my thumb to rest on the left pointer button, index finger on the trackpoint. That's a relaxed position.
    trackpoint_hand.png
    Wanted to upload an actual photo but my android phone doesn't want to talk to my debian laptop.
     
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  6. comradekingu

    comradekingu Glowing ember

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    icantyping.gif

    Trackpointer in the wrong place.
    No international keyboard for a majority international audience, on a type-only device.
    Which also means no full symbol numberrow or F-key row.
    Headphonejack on the wrong side of the case
    Zero sunvisor on glossy screen means catering for inside use in the dark.
    Slimness over batterylife.
    Spying hardware

    Could sell a few of these if they go with ubuntu and actually listen this time around.
     
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  7. kuru

    kuru Irate Pyrate

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    What do you mean by that?

    Why do you feel the headphone connector should be moved?
     
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    comradekingu Glowing ember

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology#Hardware

    If not on both sides, headphones have the cable on the left.
    Putting the port on the right, the cable has to cross over.

    So you can either route it all the way around the back. Which in this case, why wasnt it in the back to begin with, serving a better choice for docking. Well, that isnt an option here, as it would snag on the back of the screen lid, so

    OR

    You can have it be in the way of your left hand in the front, and in particular the right hand of right-handed individuals on the right.
    Seeing as the cable of headphones is most often a straight-inflexible ordeal, this moves, even if angled, the mousing position arbitrarily to the right.
    In turn increasing travel distance between keyboard and mouse for the right hand.


    Quote from: wlin7730 on January 05, 2017, 06:21:50 AM
    Playing games on chicklet keys?

    Quote from: PowerLion1 on January 04, 2017, 08:48:55 PM
    This user has never used a laptop with a trackball. And does not understand that a trackpad is cheaper to make than a trackpoint.

    It is like praising apple for doing away with the minijack. It is cheaper. Where would you even place a trackpad? For once GPD got something correct right away, even if it is in the wrong place.
     
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  9. kuru

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    Got it, good points. I just noticed my x60t has mic and hp on the right, too

    That AMT stuff sounds like a really bad idea D:
     
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  11. Blue Shadow

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    Yeah, the trackpoint position seems to be a bit odd.
    Trackpoins are meant to move the pointer without having the rearrange the fingers from the normal typing position. But to acheive this here, the closest thing in reach your are thumbs instead of your index fingers. And in this case, the thumbs would be in a pretty uncomfortable position. (I am assuming this device would'nt be suitable for thumptyping, as its probably to big. And even then the thumbs will have to move far too much downward to be comfortable)
    At least having a trackpoint at all ist a good start.

    That said, I would like to see a netbook with a real 7" form factor (other than a 7" display with a huge border around, so it is about the same size as a 9 to 10 inch device) and desktop linux support.
    Maybe I missed some devices, but I don't remember a single one that has that two features. So this might be the first one.
     
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  12. kuru

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    FWIW found those two while browsing, Elitegroup T800 and a chinese Vaio P knockoff.
    While the former reminds me of the Pocket design-wise, the latter is something I'd probably kill for if it had a hinge and built-in digitizer like the IBM X tablets. Total dream device.
    Elitegroup_T800.jpg Vaio_P_Clone.jpg

    @erico thanks for the suggestion, alas don't have Wifi
     
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  13. erico

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    If your computers/phones are sharing your home wifi, use Airdroid.
    https://airdroid.com/
     
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    TheOldOne Fallen Paladin

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    Every 7 inch netbook I've seen has been large enough to have had a 9 inch screen so a real 7 inch netbook would be nice. Why use a z8700 in a device intended to run office and Internet? The z8500 would be fine for that and use less power/produce less heat.
     
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    rygD Nihilistic Mystic

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    I wonder how easy it will be to do repairs.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 7, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 7, 2017 ---
    And maybe add a couple SD slots (I am sure you all know where that preference comes from).
     
  16. levi

    levi Still fresh, damnit!

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    Indeed. I'm only concerned about the size of the keyboard in that case. I can adapt to a 9" keyboard in a netbook quite well, and at 4 inches and below I switch to thumb typing. This clearly isn't designed for handheld thumb typing, but I don't know if my fingers can cope with that density of keys yet.
     
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    AVahne Handheld-obsessed

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    Basically just a netbook, though the thin screen bezel might actually make it somewhat pocketable (jacket pocket or cargo pants perhaps).
    That keyboard is a problem though, especially with that power button.
    Plus without a fan, would I be correct in assuming that performance might be even worse than the Win?
     
  18. comradekingu

    comradekingu Glowing ember

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    The 10" eee 1000 or 1001 had a 92% sized key keyboard, and that worked just fine.

    A full stretch ortholinear keyboard with a command button row in the middle would be sweeet.
     
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    Well it was briefly mentioned on Dingoonity but over on Tieba they are heavily touting Ubuntu on it more than anything else.
    Rather than a Windows device with the option of using Ubuntu this seems to be a Ubuntu device with the option of using Windows.
     
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    Basically an updated eeepc
     
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