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- Apr 11, 2015
Thought it was another GPD Win article. They are very common nowadays.
Give no support? They give plenty of support. Their firmware has been updated like 9 times in the last year on the XD.Market? Release one game tablet, give no support, next year release another game tablet to supposedly address the problems of the first one, keep things as cheap as possible, the solution is getting closer at 50% a day, loop forever.
Yep, their needed production run so that the product is worth doing is something I´d like to know too. Certainly they need higher sales numbers then Ed? but life is a lot cheaper in China than Germany, they may need less profit.
Give no support? They give plenty of support. Their firmware has been updated like 9 times in the last year on the XD.
Their release cycle will likely be 2+ years if you figure it takes them a year to go from concept to prototype. GPD win is roughly halfway through this cycle, and XD 1 followed the same pattern.
So staying on the newest version of the underlying OS is the defacto benchmark for product is support? I was not aware.
So the pandora is running the latest and greatest linux kernel and angstrom version out there then is what you're saying?
Lets agree in saying that support is addressing customer reported or other issues with the shipping firmware. We can disagree on what level of bleeding edge OS is support or not.
The relevant part of my quote was 2 years per line of product. If the XD 1 came out in mid 2015, and if they are in render stage now with the XD 2 and you added a year... I wouldn't be surprised if it we were looking at mid 2017 before it becomes a real device.
I don't care about bleeding edge, I care about security.
Unlike Linux, Android security fixed usually are not being backported, so Android 4.4.4 doesn't get any security fixed anymore.
You only get them with more recent versions.
Who knows. I saw someone mention that the GPD XD was shown as renderings early 2015 and was released mid 2015, so the GPD XD 2 might be similar.
The base has not been changed that much, so they don't need to redesign the case or anything, it's just small tweaks.
5 years heavy use is the minimum life time I expect of any hardware I buy and I know I can´t hold to that expectation unless I research before and am willing to pay.
It is not that I consider it rushed but I think GPD took GPH´s market and took it forward, and that at a time that android handhelds were starting to show up, so they build a name.
I´m not against GPD´s efforts, on the contrary, I love it, it gets better every version, but it is NOT a company throwing out products to last, that I believe you agree with me.
I agree it's nice, but companies that offer less, or have some line drawn in the sand short of 5 years for updates would encompass basically the entire rest of the mobile market, even those that some might consider excellent in that regard.my First Batch Pandora hit 5 years old not to long ago... Sometimes it nice to have support for this long, rather than being dumped into a ditch.
Have they replied to the question about the botched firmware/partitions of the Q9 yet?Well, yes. But the GPD XD or GPD Q9 will never see a more recent Android version, for example.
As far as I know, the Q9 has been released early 2015, the XD mid 2015, the GPD Win (and probably XD 2) are planned to be released end 2016.
That's not even close to 2 years...
Yes... though I'm not really sure whether it's useful or not.Have they replied to the question about the botched firmware/partitions of the Q9 yet?
I'm sorry, I thought the question was a rhetorical one, and as you were providing an answer you really didn't expect one. But here goes.I understand, but the cycle is not my point neither an issue for me.
My point is as stated and as I asked you. I will do it again, do you believe GPD is targeting long last quality hardware?
Are they really pooling their "community´s" interest in a sense that they care?
Come on, you can´t seriously answer both as yes.
Again, nothing wrong with their product, I like it, but it is a release-for-profit-only company in my books.
They are getting better by the years and that is awesome, but it is still below cultural western standards as it is today, product and support.
Well I said we can just disagree on that point. I also don't hear "staying on top of security patches" as a common complaint among anyone but people who probably wouldn't use android anyway, just saying.
I hear things like "oh my hardware is making a weird noise" after upgrade "oh hey it's fixed, awesome!" That's what I argue is support. I hope we can at least agree that is support, and GPD does offer that.
Also I'm sure you personally are probably one of the reasons there is a very recent split version of their firmware, one without emulators and stuff bundled in, and another with it. So one could also argue they do listen to their customers requests as well.
So the picture I'm trying to paint differs to the one others here are painting that "ohh lets just throw some shit against the wall and see how much of it sticks, but hey, lets not wait too long because here comes the next load! CHOO! CHOO!" or some other nonsense.
Not perfect, but acceptable by a reasonable person IMO.
I'm saying the wait was longer, the first image I saw of the GPD XD concept was about a year before it was made. Some might disagree, GPD didn't really get into the dingoonity until during the XD development cycle, mostly talked through ambassadors than posting themselves.
You know first hand the problems you went through with the pyra and it's not a ground up product either, there is at least some overlap in design and minor tweaks going on.
It just depends on your expectations. To me 5 years seems a bit much to ask from company to support. Support it with major patches for as long as you are producing new units and then I guess a year for warranty after the last one rolls off the line then cut the cord and start focusing on your next project. Those are my expectations.
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That's true, but it's only really necessary in our case because it's that long since the Pandora first batch came out. If the project hadn't been managed into the metaphorical ditch then rescued, it's possible some Pandora 2 would have been out by now running an A9 or something, and personally I only expect official support to last until the next device is out plus a year or so maybe.my First Batch Pandora hit 5 years old not to long ago... Sometimes it nice to have support for this long, rather than being dumped into a ditch.
Hey all. According to this site:
... the GPS XD2 is coming end of the month or early April