Maybe I'll just close down the old portal - is there anything interesting left there?
Nothing much, just a list of us 397 or more screwed up - that list is missing at front page of Portal.
So, big news of Day of the Pandora was - kill the old portal and hide the past? Welcome to 1984.
Yeah, it was birthday present for my son that he will remember for whole life.
Let's celebrate. Day of the Pandora. Predecessor of ICP2.
Oh, you want ED to violate privacy laws now so he can publish a "Hall of Fame" list of all the names of all the martyrs in Craig's preorderer queue? On the front page of the official Pandora website no less?
As an iCP2 backer, I know the feeling of having wasted money to the Great Craig Black Hole. It is not a particularly nice feeling. But I don't see how the situation improves by being a forum party pooper at any possible occasion. Especially if you're directing your party pooping at guys like ED and Link who are actually actively trying to improve the situation, clean up the mess Craig left, learn lessons from the past, and move on with better-managed new projects.
So please, darkborn, take your hostility and contra-productive dark cynicism born from admittedly understandable frustration elsewhere. Yes, Craig's incompetence and dishonesty caused you to lose money half a decade ago. Get over it, or take action against Craig, whatever, but stop annoying us with it. And get your son a Pandora Mega package at ED's shop for his next birthday.
You are missing the point.
Question was "Should Pandora portal be closed?
Big NO from me.
There should be "Hall of Fame" with proper explanation and informations (like this wiki page
) what has happened. And link for donations for victims.
I am not expecting that somebody will donate after all that mess, but this is right thing to do imho.
Closing = hiding.
Btw List of donors should be transparent: I made small Paypal donation myself sometimes before, as a test. Never showed up!
@"violating privacy laws":
1) is this comparable to missing of hundreds of thousands dollars?
2) Who has EVER said that there should be NAMES? Don't put your words in my mouth.
Simple #order_number code will be sufficient, not same as original #order_number code of course. Conversion table should be at private, safe place, right here where "Hall of Fame" is now - at ED.
You do not understand how many people know about this mess, there is no any Pyra that will hide the past.
Imho, closing original Portal is lunatic move. You do not need Sony, Nintendo or whatever proprietary competition to make FUD about it: it is already here.
If somebody new find out what was happening before, and found out about hiding
this infos, this would become swiftly spreading warning sign.
Think about this:
How many people knew that Craig is not trustworthy person, but still ordered ICP2 because of rest of the crew - particularly ED?
And how many of them knew that Jacquelyn and Debbie-Leigh Jones are Craig's mother and sister?
I know who knew for sure. ED.
Craig Rothwell, Michael Weston, Michael Mrozek, Mark Linkhorst, Dave Cancilier, Jacquelyn and Debs
all have one thing in common. They’ve all spent the last ten years in the technology industry and need your help on Kickstarter
. In the past they have worked on a selection of projects from OpenPandora, iControlpad, and GP2X &GP32 and much more.
The iControlPad was built by Product 3 LLC, which is a team of Craig Rothwell, Michael Weston, Michael Mrozek, Mark Linkhorst, Dave Cancilier, Jacquelyn and Debs.
And there is always Wayback Machine
, so closing the past is impossible.
So, please, stop with hiding.
True is that there are thousands of happy Pandora owners around, and that should be stated before "Hall of Fame", at original site, as a virtual monument of open source gaming history. And ED is creditable for that and should be mentioned here, for sure.
Just - not more hiding.
> And get your son a Pandora Mega package at ED's shop for his next birthday.
If you are not paid for this, please do not suggest me where I will spent my money. If you are, made public state about it.
Or, if you're really concerned about my son, you are free to donate him "Pandora Mega package" by yourself