Still they are withholding key relationships such as deaths & hospitalisations vs age.
Blame me, not them. I think you can find that if you follow my links, but I tried to summarize.
There's not a source that gives all the data completely, but there's something.
I miss observational reports like these that divide people in groups according to time from last vaccination, to give an idea of how long vaccines or boosters last.
I have no evidence to back it but I suspect boosted get 25% SAR for Omicron and vaccinated nonboosted 32% not so much because of how many times they got essentially the same vaccines (they all code the same spike protein, more or less), but because those boosted have got their last shots more recently.
Infection rate is meaningless but makes for startling trajectories.
Not completely meaningless, it's a lower bound. There can be people reporting themselves ill when they're not (to excuse from work, etc.) but I think there're many more that don't get tested or reported.
Zürich is my hometown which I never considered a propagandakanton.
Never trust the data of a place with positivity over 30% (or even over 5%).They may be as honest as the best, but they're just not doing enough tests to know what's there. I liked that they separate their data according to immunization status.
We can still use their hospitalization data, though (despite false negatives in tests, and the nuance of in hospital with COVID or because of COVID, etc.). I may have misinterpreted something, though.
Btw. I assumed 1551000 is the Kanton population. If it's the city population I may have something wrong in my table.
Partial information = misinformation.
But the complete details can never be shared because of privacy concerns, so reports muss aggregate somehow. It all comes to what someone considers important.
If the main incentive for vaccination campaigns is keeping people out of hospitals I don't understand why they are pushing them on the young. This suggests another motive.
Look at data per age group. Kids, teenagers and young adults are most of the cases. Also because schools and Universities may require tests that families and offices don't require.
But because the young are less vaccinated too, and they vacciante them to try to prevent them spreading it to other groups. But they won't succeed because vaccines aren't good enough at preventing transmission.
Even if vaccines don't cause less transmission (not much, not long), they are used as an excuse to excempt the vaccinated to quarantine and keep shops and offices open.
Even for kids, they may let them go to school when positive or contact if they're vaccinated, so that their parents can go to work.
They will infect others and some will feel bad enough that they need to stay home with some parent, so the policy is doomed to fail, but they don't care. Very few kids will die of COVID or vaccines. At least in the immediate future.
It's all make believe. If they didn't vaccinate the young they'd have no excuse to change policies on quarantines and adminission and so.
I think many authorities in the EU have just surrendered and will let everyone get Omicron and hope for some natural immunity from that.
They can't say so because they'd look incompetent and more importantly someone would sue them to try to recover losses from so many medical leave and business interruption.
But they don't think they can do anything useful any more, and they need to pretend they're still trying and failing, to collect less blame.
Blame or not blame I think they'll get off the hook no matter what the balance finally is, because society is mostly fed up and they prefer death and suffering than lockdowns
(Actually they prefer a lottery where they may win mild COVID with maybe immunity, or death or suffering, over a safer mandated lockdown where they can't win or lose or take decisions),
so authorities may be negligent homicides, but with the consent of most of their victims. I'm kind of in a ship full of feeling lucky fools.
Lockdowns may not be economically sustainable anyway (they are, just not with the EU economy which is terribly organised).
And they may not be psicologically sustainable (they are, just not with the EU commonly held philosophies).
And I don't know what else might stop this wave besides lockdowns.
So back to the old European tradition of plague, famine and war (I wish it was only European). The tradition is surviving peasants don't get to blame and overthrow anyone in particular, so must look as good policy.
On the bright side, biology has got humans over many difficult situations, and vaccines give some protection, so there'll be survivors. It might even be no worse than it has been. Who knows?
Not always. For example: Household transmission risk. There is a group that does not comply with covid rules, So they do not go to test, they do not appear in the graph (Pyrat's Danish study numbers).
We know there are asymptomatics... and those, won't go testing themselves because, depending on the country: If you do not have symptoms, don't go test yourself rules.
Sure. The particular statistics in Danish studies is for households that knew one member was positive and could decide what measures to take.
There's a lot of asymptomatic transmission, public transport, lots of scenarios that are not similar to what they looked at.
But you can't blame someone for only looking at the data they can get.
So many ways you can skew numbers...
Yes, and even without intent to skew you may not have all the data no matter how hard you try.
But you can skew appreciations of reality without numbers too, so that's no reason not to look at the numbers you can get.
You have to keep in mind you're not seeing the whole picture, that's all.
For example in Tedades's graph... the unvaccinated-but-already-had-covid-but-not-registered should also be a line, and 8 times lower than the vaccinated line...
How do you know it's 8 times lower (couldn't it be 4 or 16 or anything?)
it's absent from the graph (for obvious reasons), so what does that mean? Where do you keep getting unvaccinated-but-did-not-get-covid people from?
Some people are naturally immune to COVID-19. I don't know how many, or how to tell which ones.
I've heard of studies trying to find biomarkers that predict the severity of COVID but I'm not aware of anything definitive.
Other than young healthier people fare better than old or comorbid cases, like for so many other diseases. But those who fare better still pass it along to those who don't.
At a certain point in time, everybody should have gotten it (and if you have good defenses, you might not even have noticed it).
Yes.
So that means that this line is very high, but have very few people and is thus, imho, statistical lying. (If you did not get the old variants, you'll certainly get Omicron I or II...before the end of February).
I'm lost here. Which line ?
Then, in the Netherlands, the Health minister used a 15% instead of a 5% because he used "old numbers", and did not correct even when called out during a press conference. He was using partial information to make national decisions because that suits his agenda.
Never let truth ruin a good story. There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, great value in mortgage derivatives, security in computers...
Then there are graphs that show the rise of Omicron. But no tests required to differentiate from Delta or Alpha, or Beta, or any of the other letters.
I assumed they plot those graphs from screening some random selection of test samples and sequencing them. Not very sure though.
Then there's this “Paul Ehrlich Institute” in Germany that tests the quality of the Pfizer vaccines itself. But Pfizer gets to decide which ones get send to the lab for testing... interesting, right?
I've sent some links to stories that cast doubt on how science based the decisions from PEI are. I don't know them, but it might be that the German government ay least uses them as excuses to set policy, "because scientists say so".
People are likely to be vaccinated in EU. That they want or not, really.
"all for the people, but without the people" was already the motto in illustrated despotism. Sad how history repeats itself.
In some regions, in Germany, the shops are already divided in 2 : 1.) one area for people vaccinated 2.) second area of the shop, for people non vaccinated.
At entrance, they ask for vaccination papers.
In Catalonia COVID passport rules expire today. Nobody knows whether they'll renew them or not. Whatever they do they'll say they're following some expert group of scientific advisors. Suspense...
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