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One thing i dont Understand: Kirk only needs 1 Sidekick : Mr. Spock, but Picard needs 2 Sidekicks : Data an Comander Ryker,
Also there is no Vulkanien in the new Crew, but a Klingone, why??
I thought there was always a redshirt who made up the on-world crew in ToS with Kirk. But yeah, when TNG came about it was a shock to see a Klingon as a member of crew, as they were always the big bad in ToS, at least for the first few episodes worth.

As far as I remember, in ToS, Kirk was captain, Spock, science officer, Bones McCoy the medic, Sulu did torpedos - he was the helmsman according the wikipedia, Uhura was comms, Checkov did navigation and Scotty handled the warp drive in engineering.

In TNG you have Picard as Captain, Riker as first officer (bascially deputy captain), Yar as security, LaForge as helmsman, Data officially as second officer (the deputy's deputy), Crusher as medic. Apparently engineering was handled by bit part actors for the first few series. Worf was officially a junior team member doing bits and pieces to begin with.
 
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One thing i dont Understand: Kirk only needs 1 Sidekick : Mr. Spock, but Picard needs 2 Sidekicks : Data an Comander Ryker,
Also there is no Vulkanien in the new Crew, but a Klingone, why??
Both Kirk and picard have a whole crew (kirk had many more, much busier corridors) not just a single sidekick.
And how could one fill the shoes of spock so I get it when few vulcans applied at starfleet academy :p Or they saw it as being below their class. It takes half breeds or vulcans raised by humans to get to such a low point.
 

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Thinking on it, I don't remember any corridor action in TNG. Everyone just disappeared in the lifts from the bridge, or sauntered into sick bay. Although I don't remember how anyone got to the bar, or to their lodgings. In comparison, most of the action in DS9 seemed to be in corridors and eateries.
 

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Wasnt the first Enterprise just a Model, and the Bridge was in a Moviestudio? ..

There was also a German Space Show 10 Yeahrs bevor the Star Track "Raumpatroile Orion" where they even used Irons as Part of the Bridge..

I can Remember to visit the Set on the Movie Musseum in Babelsberg, when whe made Vacations in Bayern more than 25 Years ago..
I even sat on Fufur, the Dragon from the "Never ending Story" "Unendliche Geschichte" ^^

They even had the "Das Boot" Set ^^
 

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Komisch, i remember to sat on Fuchur, and visitet "Das Boot", , maybe the Submarine was in Sinsheim or the Other City whit a Technic Museum..

EDIT: Now im Remember: The Bavaria Film Studios ..
Its hard when you dont know your own country..
 

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Wasnt the first Enterprise just a Model, and the Bridge was in a Moviestudio? ..
Of course; there are no full scale spaceships that can exist in earth gravity, at least when we're talking Trek. Even on newer trek like Discovery the bridge is a separate set to the corridors that lead to it, I expect, given there's always a cut whenever anyone enters or leaves that we're following, even if in the movie world there's a corridor connecting the bridge to the medibay and other stuff.

I'd imagine there was a reduced scale enterprise made for TNG, given when that started, but all of the flashy effects you see are computer generated, obviously in the case of the warp sequences. I don't know how long they persisted with that after B5 showed it could all exist within a computer, and you could save your set building money for all of the weird haircuts.
 

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If you want to know about some Star Trek ship/ship class, look no further. You gonna be helped here;
Talks about the handcrafted models (which there were, who did them etc), about the cgi models, all the refits, exterior, interior, the captains, what happened to the ship, in which movie or series it was, yada yada yada.
@matzesu You shouldn\t go there, unless you don\t mind spoilers.
 

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There was also a German Space Show 10 Yeahrs bevor the Star Track "Raumpatroile Orion"
Star trek debuted on September 8, 1966 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek
Its seven episodes were broadcast by ARD beginning 17 September 1966 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raumpatrouille_–_Die_phantastischen_Abenteuer_des_Raumschiffes_Orion

I wouldt call that 10 years earlier I would call that 9 days later :D


Now to see if I can find the episodes of Raumpatrouille somewhere seem cool!
 

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Maybe Amazon Prime Video?
maybe i thought Orion was that long earlyer because its Black and White, and the first Star Trek was Colour..

Also something i dont understand: Some of our Newspapers, often use Black and White Pictures when they show something from the 1980thes, but i can remember, the Pictures from my Childhood in the 1980thes where Colour, and there are even Colour Pictures from World War 2, although Black and White Cameras where more popular in the 1940thes..
 

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Money. It's far cheaper to print photos in black and white. Back when I used to buy a daily paper in the early 2000s they were still using black and white for the inner pages even if they used colour splashes on the front. Fast black and white film used to be available back then for journalists working to that standard I guess. Nowadays even free papers are colour throughout, so I guess as it's increasingly hard to get a black and white print without deliberately removing the colour, and I guess the price differential between printing black and white sheets versus colour ones as print houses eventually bought more four stage colour printing machines as their old single stage black and white printing machines broke.

Edit: We seem to have gone off topic from the gigantic star trek thread. My apologies.
 

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Finished today the Kirk Episode, where he was splitt in 2 Kirks because a Transporter Issue, was quite entertaining,
Its not bad at all to watch one Kirk, one Picard TNG, Episode, because this way i dotnt have to wait that long until i can begin whit TNG..

I like booth Series..
 

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When i would start as its supposed (first the Kirk Episodes, then the TNG whit Picard,) i have to wait until i finished whit Kirk until i can start whit TNG, so i decided to Watch one Episode Kirk, and then TNG, even if this means im pretty slow whit the Episodes, but thanks to Netflix and the Kickstand of my Iphone Case, i can even watch Star Trek whyle i decalc the Coffee Machine ^^

But i hope i can watch Netflix whit the Pyra, so i dont have to use my Iphone that often anymore..
 
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