@Djoga'Ro they call them hallucinations but a more accurate term is bullshitting. To probe the breadth of knowledge I'll ask them to list the albums of a semi-obscure bands. All the AI's except chatGPT often reply with completely incorrect titles. Do they know they are bullshitting? Presumably the titles are the most probable but also lower probability. The AI's should say when they are guessing. This problem might go away with larger models. Seems like AI + search engine might be a good approach so the model doesn't have to have all the data, can be more up to date. This is what m$ is doing with bing. m$ is trying to steal googles search thunder. I think they've got a chance. And you're right, things can get much better.
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Don't think. Doesn't feel like it.
I've seen an interview with an Indian scientist (Math or CS, I guess. I'd love to state his name, but don't remember). He explained how LLMs were inherently unable to check themselves. Dunno what it's worth, but it seemed plausible to me.
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It's as Djoga'Ro says:
AIs don't know, and don't think. They just react. But who cares?
As late Professor Dijkstra used to say (or they say he said):
“The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim.”
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I think it's also a reason why they censor up to a great extend these days.Mark Zuckerberg says there’s ‘no causal connection’ between social media and teen mental health
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They already filtered out search results on popular search engines, but the censoring in news makes it that LLM's are biased to.
So if you ask any LLM it probably will reflect the average reporting of news instead of the updated news which is usually reported afterwards.
WTF happened to my post? It should have be an Screenshot of Apple Siri said this Spider is an Thick ..
I believe the essence of information retrieval, reasoning and creativity are blurred.
Simple example, a long time ago perl could generate rather evocative haiku's. Beautiful poems based on word lists and randomization. I more or less concluded that they seemed creative and perception is reality. Is creativity a process or an attribute of a product? The process is irrelevant to many so I'd say it's the product. This means it doesn't matter if art is created by a computer or human.
"Are computers creative?" will become a big topic (I hope!) once mostly AI generated movies and music become normal. People will probably say they don't care if a song is AI if they like the melody. Especially if it's cheaper.
Im still wonder what did cause this Code Nonsense on my Post above, i had bevor postet lots of pictures in Tapatalk whit my old Iphone, and it worked every time, but today, it was only nonsene..
it was an Spider from our Cellar whit everything that makes it a real spider, including his web (2.0) , 8 Long Legs and a Cross on his back, on the Iphone, its got detectet as an "Bug" and you can let it show you what Bug it is.. (allthough Spiders are no Bugs, there are "Crap - Animals", therefore 8 Legs) ..
it was an Spider from our Cellar whit everything that makes it a real spider, including his web (2.0) , 8 Long Legs and a Cross on his back, on the Iphone, its got detectet as an "Bug" and you can let it show you what Bug it is.. (allthough Spiders are no Bugs, there are "Crap - Animals", therefore 8 Legs) ..
Fine. So your submarines can swim.
I don't think it will be cheaper. Music is free, you can create your own, and not so many centuries ago people used to do. It doesn't get cheaper than that.
People has also payed for music, now and ever (or long enough ago). Now people pays for music with money, data and granted control.
But I think still today most people who play or write music do because they like it. For most of them it will never bring enough money.
So do you really need machines doing it ? Do we want a lot of nuclear plants to have a machine do what we already do ? And if we want, what is left for us to do ?
That's not even getting into copyright. If there were already ridiculous lawsuits about songs that sound the same from human musicians (in some styles, all songs sound the same), imagine once LLMs start
serially copyrighting everything they produce just to prevent others from composing it in the future and profiting from it. If neither LLMs nor the companies operating or developing them are allowed to hold copyrights,
they'll just hire phantom humans to claim the copyright and assign it to the LLM-publisher. Add to that the arguments about the inputs to the LLMs training being used without permission,
and you'll soon land in a lawyers' paradise.
I think this LLM and generative AI is mostly hype. It's not absolutely useless like other hype waves, but it's not at all useful enough, QC is a nightmare and it's much more expensive that it looks.
But it centralizes power, and in authoritarian times such as these, it may still prevail, despite not being profitable.Alienating other people's creativity may be a political goal where some people sink lots of money.
Who knows.
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No idea. Might a wrong mimetype have played some role ? It's like you copied some bytes from an image and pasted those bytes as text or whatever...
I will post it then on weekend via the Browser when Tapatalk dosnt work that good.. , i did push on the Image Posting Button, did chose the Picture but it was not working..
I think thanks to this quite cool Dual Camera thing and the Button i could try to make some Instagram Stuff ..
I think thanks to this quite cool Dual Camera thing and the Button i could try to make some Instagram Stuff ..
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Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm not a righteous tech bro who thinks computers are the answer to everything. All I'm saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I went to a Jesuit university and took philosophy courses where I had prove that humans are different than other animals due to our ability to reason because we are Gods favorite. Any other conclusion and you had to repeat the course. Aren't we special (egomaniacs). When people say computers can't reason or be creative I question the motive (egomania?). According to me most humans can't reason, forget about creativity.
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I think I got you right. You're saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I'm just saying caring for beauty is pointless. I'm not contradicting you.
I pity you. I had a philosophy teacher in high-school who happened to be Jesuit (I believe, or everyone else said so). He was supposed to have gained his job in some open process as any other public servant, one could not exclude him because of being Jesuit, and at least the high-school wasn't Jesuit.
I still knew I wouldn't like the course at day one when he asked why did we think philosophy started in Greece, I said something about our textbook having some mention of Confucius, he rambling something about that notwithstanding and the myths and faith or something, and I concluding that philosophy started in Greece because he defined philosophy as the philosophical tradition that started there then. Sigh.
Talk about egocentrism...
I understand what you mean. I could accept that an olive tree is more intelligent than I am. Maybe it thinks too (or maybe it doesn't because it's too intelligent for that). Maybe it reasons.
But I don't think a computer does, just like I don't think there's life in the game of life. And I have nothing against John Conway.
Anyway. I have a copy of "Ways of Being. Animals, Plants, Machines: The Search for a Planetary Intelligence" by James Bridle that I didn't read yet, and your post just motivated me to start tonight.
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Being intelligent doesn't make you human. People value their memories and computers are better in recalling 'memories', so humans appear jealous of that skill. So much that we try to make computers reflect people skills or merge with them.
We know a computer won't be a person but where's the difference. Computers can mimic skills humans have, sometimes even exceed at them, but that doesn't make them human.
I do like AI generated stuff. It will raise our expectations for content we want to pay for. Hopefully it creates a world with more choices and not the same bland stuff.
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I fear it will create a world with fewer choices, because training AI requires lots of data, lots of energy and lots of hardware. And labeling inputs or refining outputs requires lots of labour.
There're those Amazon shops without stuff that resulted in lots of offshored remote attendants watching shop camera feeds from some India sweatshop or wherever.
Those self driving cars with remote drivers assisting the computer assitant.
Etc.
So it will divide the world between those who can buy content generators and those who cannot. No matter how versatile AI machines are, if they all belong
to a handful of people, they will all produce the same kind of bland stuff. And they will have to recover those training costs, so it'll most likely be used for deception, marketing, war etc.
Even if AI may be useful for research, translation or something, it will be used for anything lucrative instead. And it won't be used properly even in useful fields.
At the same time, having AI creating content removes incentives (if that's possible at all) for humans to learn and create.
And do you think creativity requires free will ? Do you believe in free will at all ?
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I don't.
What do you mean at all? Some people have free will and some don't?? Ha ha ha. I agree with that
From our perspective we have free will. From a cosmic perspective not so much.
If you knew the position and velocity of every particle in the Universe at a point in time you could compute all the future and all the past. That's one theory that debunks free will.
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