If you want to go this direction the better way to look at it is that not all Germans, back when Hitler and friends were in power, believed in all (or any) of what was being said or done. Plenty of people tried to do what you are doing toward all Germans back then. What I have already said is that at least some people may find themselves forced into a position where they have to do or say things they disagree with (but let me guess, you think these people should allow themselves, and their friends and families to be tortured and killed instead of refusing to play along until they can get out of that situation?).
And all those people playing along are the ones making ISIS (which to me are just overly consistent muslims that take Mohammed's orders dangerously serious) possible.
Having an islamic state spread over the whole planet by any means necessary (and therefore "peace" by unification and obedience) is the declared goal of this whole system after all and it baffles me that nobody seems to have a problem with this.
I never played along anywhere and maybe would have died in late 30s Germany as well as in an islamic country, my life was endangered even around here sometimes because I don't play along with such bollocks, that's why I have great respect for people that try to free themselves from this stuff. Ex-muslims are heroes to me, since I know the danger those apostates are hovering in. I always wonder how people can ignore all the oppressed, tortured, mutilated (acid attack for not wearing hijab for example) and murdered women.
Besides: No, muslims are not allowed to make their own judgements, that's the whole point.
Ah, yes, people are completely incapable of being able to think for themselves. I always forget that. There has never been anyone that has been anyone that has been in the minority as far as opinions or beliefs in the place they live, or been a part of the silent majority that have everything controlled by the vocal minority in power. Come on, I know you know better than to believe that.
That's not even near to what I wrote in your quote or anywhere else. I wrote, that they are not allowed to think for themselves according to their dead leader.
The real danger of Islam doesn't even lie in the hateful orders written in the Quran, but in the inconsistency of the followers making this system survive and even thrive. This inconsisteny is in many cases due to circumstances (not many chances to win a jihad against infidels if they are the majority around you) and partly because of ignorance to what they actually are supposed to believe in and what people stand for by calling themselves muslims. I know people with muslim families which would never consider themselves as muslims although they know better than to speak out against it because of the underlying oppression.
I don't know how you react to people that call themselves scientologists or national socialists of course, if you'd defend those and their belief as well, you are free of the bigotry I'm starting to sense here and wouldn't have expected.
It looks to me like I was the only one comparing religions. I suppose I could be mistaken. If you will provide me the method you are using to measure how bad a religion or its followers are without comparing it to something else, maybe I can better understand what you are getting at. Otherwise, it seems you have no argument, and are just attacking those that are different from you. It is nonsense, though, so what do I know. (I know that I prefer nonsense to most human logic, but again, my declared beliefs are far worse than what you are arguing against.)
I'm reading the "but christianity isn't perfect too"-argument in every single discussion about islam by apologetics, there never has been a single one without it and it always comes up by the pro-islam side while most of the other side isn't even supporting christianity.
Sure, I can tell you my method. I'm measuring the danger of religions by looking at their foundation (holy scripture) and counting the encouragements for violence, misogyny and disrespect for people with other beliefs in it as some examples.
Then you should probably reconsider how you say things.
So I'm not allowed to speak out against Islam because muslims could be offended and I'm a hater if I simply oppose it, what else is new? I see your opinion about freedom of thought and speech has already been shriveled in this regard.
Why are people making exceptions for Islam when I could oppose about any nation, organisation, company or other religion without such reactions?
I don't really care for the followers in what I have written here, I'm talking about the core of it all which is rotten and I can't hate it since it's just shit from very violent times, I can't accept though, that people are still keeping this violent and disrespectful stuff alive.
Sadly religions like Jainism which are based on not being a burden to anyone (not only humans) aren't as succesful, since they get stomped out by the more aggressive ones. Do you know what happened with them when Pakistan was founded? Nothing nice.
How would I be allowed by you to criticize Islam without being considered a hater? I'm genuinely interested in your opinion about that.
Despite what you claim, your words and actions resemble hate.
Which words? Did I use slurs? I'm just talking about what's actually written in the Quran here and that I can't believe that people are mad enough to support it.
Which actions? Do you see me burning down mosques? I think you have just put me into the haters drawer to make life easier and since you usually never do this in any other regard (which I always liked) and are clearly making exceptions here, there has to have been some kind of subtle indocrination happening.
In case you have forgotten, I think the human population should be greatly reduced. I do hate humans collectively. I acknowledge that individuals have merit, however even most of those that try to make things better in a way that I feel is admirable are still a part of what I see as a very big problem. There are very few that are truly living in such a way that I feel has little negative impact on those we share the planet with.
No, I haven't forgotten. But if you claim to hate humans equally, you shouldn't make exceptions for islam when it comes to criticizing core aspects of it that are clearly written down and every follower is supposed to follow (which they don't in most cases of course, but this has many reasons).
