Well, if it as comfortable, it may be a good point that buttons are closer to the nub.
I'm against increasing the width if it's just for changing the position of two extra buttons and 1/2" (1,3 cm) is way too much
Some people have smaller hands. I can just reach the Start/Select/Pandora buttons with my thumbs at current Pandora's size. To reach the number 6 key at the top I need to shift position a bit to get to it.
No - you didn't 'keep the cross' you moved it down and left to where it impinges on the nub and the keyboard forcing the rest of us to reach over the keyboard to get to it. Now, please, take ED's render of the case plastics - look at the diameter of the game pad keys it uses and the space they're in. 6 at that size will not fit in that space.
The Pandora can already run PSP games.It looks great. However, there needs to be one final adjustment. Make sure it can run psp games and gamecube games
~K.B.
Are the bottom joints of your middle fingers held against the sides of the case, or are the bottom joints of your index fingers held there? I can comfortably hold the Pandora in two different positions, one of these positions gives me plenty of reach to and beyond the 6 number button, in the other position I can still reach it but not as easily. Adding, say, 1/4" to the total width will increase the distance our thumbs need to travel to reach the center by 1/8" each. Since while holding my Pandora in the more comfortable position for me I can reach the opposite nub with either thumb, I think this amount of space will effect the comfort of most users at all, besides a little bit of getting used to before blind typing. But if you're holding your Pandora with most of your hands folded behind it so that it's already difficult to reach the number keys, then yes I guess this could hurt you a bit. Sorry, but I think you could get used this.
No. 1080p screens can't be used because they're all portrait format, and that's considered a dealbreaker. 720p screens are also all portrait these days, but they've got this chip now which will hopefully rotate it in hardware, and give us a couple of other neat features too.
ED currently seems to be confident that with better case materials and closer tolerances there will be less breakage issues, and less dodgy-contact battery issues with the design largely as is, but I'm confident that that sort of thing is something he'll be actively checking. As you say, it's a recurrent enough issue. Unless of course he doesn't want to lose the profit on spare battery covers
Yes, I did keep the cross. The position of the cross is not the important thing, it was the fact that they are arranged in a cross pattern. It does not impinge on the nub, and you're trying to make it sound like these buttons are harder to reach, when they are actually closer to your thumb than the nub is, which no one seems to have problems with the positioning of. And 6 buttons will fit in that space, I have already made mockups detailing this before the PCB mockup.
That's not true at all. I had already created an example before the PCB example, but then people claimed "I don't believe it can be done on the PCB", hence why I created the PCB example to show that "Yes, it is possible on the actual PCB as well".
Yes they will.
No it wouldn't, the buttons are not as large as you seem to think.
No it wouldn't, there would be more plastic between the nub and the button than there is plastic verically between the keyboard keys.
No it wouldn't, EvilDragon has already confirmed this is not the case with my earlier design. The top button in my design is the same height was the Y button is currently.
No, we don't have a win. We have 2 useless buttons that are hard to use effectively.
Well, I can't reach the opposite nub with my thumb at all:
I'm still concerned that adding any amount of width would make reaching the three middle buttons uncomfortable, ie. that I would need to stretch out or change my grip just to reach those buttons (I'm stretching out as far as I can go in the above pic).
Adding width isn't needed. The 6-button layout I am suggesting will work with the current space restraints. Also, even if we were to try to increase the area for the buttons, it would make more sense to move the nubs inward some than to make the device wider, seeing as how there is unused space between the nubs and the Start/Select/Home buttons.
How do you know, did Ed comment on that ? And just to be sure: I know the reasons, why 720p display are considered again.
The lid will be flimsy regardless of the material, its more a design failure than anything else, in my opinion.ED currently seems to be confident that with better case materials and closer tolerances there will be less breakage issues, and less dodgy-contact battery issues with the design largely as is, but I'm confident that that sort of thing is something he'll be actively checking. As you say, it's a recurrent enough issue. Unless of course he doesn't want to lose the profit on spare battery covers
Were exactly does he write something like "so we skipped 1080p display completly", the info I got out of that text was "we are trying to find solutions to optimize rotation for a 1080p screen, but it does not look good, so we searched/are searching for alternatives..."
