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...which, if the Pandora even provides enough power, will drain the battery like nothing else, be heavy, bulky, an extra box to carry around and will break if you drop it or put it down too hard. Nope.
 
NeX-Ferret said:
...which, if the Pandora even provides enough power, will drain the battery like nothing else, be heavy, bulky, an extra box to carry around and will break if you drop it or put it down too hard. Nope.
qft
 
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you can get a only USB powered Western Digital HDD, but, the power usage is not worth it, and if it gets unplugged, it would be bad.. trust me. Linux does NOT like it's system being pulled out of it like that.
 
Kloplop321 said:
you can get a only USB powered Western Digital HDD, but, the power usage is not worth it, and if it gets unplugged, it would be bad.. trust me. Linux does NOT like it's system being pulled out of it like that.
Why would you claim only Linux doesn't like that?

NO OS likes an unplug with a FAT32 filesystem- you typically get all kinds of pain when you do things like that. It's not an "if", but more of a "when" in that respect. Now, having said this... While it's not a good idea to disconnect a true journalling filesystem (Such as ext3, rieserfs, JFS, etc...) it's not got the same problems and the only risk to things is to your data that is in the page cache, which every modern OS has, including Windows. You'll lose data, but not likely to lose the whole lot like you would with a FAT32 filesystem.
 
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Svartalf said:
Kloplop321 said:
you can get a only USB powered Western Digital HDD, but, the power usage is not worth it, and if it gets unplugged, it would be bad.. trust me. Linux does NOT like it's system being pulled out of it like that.
Why would you claim only Linux doesn't like that?

NO OS likes an unplug with a FAT32 filesystem- you typically get all kinds of pain when you do things like that. It's not an "if", but more of a "when" in that respect. Now, having said this... While it's not a good idea to disconnect a true journalling filesystem (Such as ext3, rieserfs, JFS, etc...) it's not got the same problems and the only risk to things is to your data that is in the page cache, which every modern OS has, including Windows. You'll lose data, but not likely to lose the whole lot like you would with a FAT32 filesystem.

Where does he say "only" linux?
 
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PoisonedV said:
Or you can get a 300Gb mini hard drive for 50 dollars less.
Which isn't practical for a hand-held and will dramatically shorten the runtime you have with the battery. With the OS you have on the Pandora, you can actually get a USB powered DVD burner. I've even got one of them for the purposes of DVD boot on some of the hardware around my house. I don't expect to be using my Pandora in this mode of operation except to geek out and show off what a "real handheld gaming machine" can do. ;)

As a "because I can" item, this stuff's okay. As a usable thing for mobile devices, they're not so hot.

waffles said:
Where does he say "only" linux?
"Linux does NOT like it's system being pulled out of it like that."

Which is really not an accurate statement- from someone that deals with hot-swap carrier grade Linux systems day-in, day-out.
 
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Svartalf said:
PoisonedV said:
Or you can get a 300Gb mini hard drive for 50 dollars less.
Which isn't practical for a hand-held and will dramatically shorten the runtime you have with the battery. With the OS you have on the Pandora, you can actually get a USB powered DVD burner. I've even got one of them for the purposes of DVD boot on some of the hardware around my house. I don't expect to be using my Pandora in this mode of operation except to geek out and show off what a "real handheld gaming machine" can do. ;)

As a "because I can" item, this stuff's okay. As a usable thing for mobile devices, they're not so hot.

waffles said:
Where does he say "only" linux?
"Linux does NOT like it's system being pulled out of it like that."

Which is really not an accurate statement- from someone that deals with hot-swap carrier grade Linux systems day-in, day-out.


Still doesn't use the word 'only' though.

I presume Linux was mentioned and not Windows has something to do with the fact that Pandora's OS will be LINUX based and not Windows based.
 
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Well linux does not like it when High priority devices are unplugged, such as the WiFi USB dongle on my laptop, it crashes if I remove it while it is on(I have done it on accident several times..)
I am just saying, if you got a program running from the HDD, and it is reading data from the HDD, you are going to have some problems..
 
Kloplop321 said:
Well linux does not like it when High priority devices are unplugged, such as the WiFi USB dongle on my laptop, it crashes if I remove it while it is on(I have done it on accident several times..)
I am just saying, if you got a program running from the HDD, and it is reading data from the HDD, you are going to have some problems..
That's your device and it's driver. I've got a USB WiFi dongle that's not doing that when you do it (I've done it many times before in testing on several distributions...). Heh... Gotta love glitches in device drivers- only way to hang up a box solid is to have one in a driver or a brown-paper-bag moment in some new kernel code.

Program running from HDD dies, doesn't lock up the machine unless it's the root filesystem partition or the swap partition.
Program reading data from the HDD dies- shouldn't lock up anything more than the app, if that (I'd call the app poorly written...)

Proof positive of this is when you go and put an ext3 filesystem on a SDHC card (Uh...don't...unless it's an ultra-high-speed reader...something about the journalling playback on mount with either a 4 or 8GiB card takes FOREVER...), decide in the middle of the mount process (which would be the kernel level reading the disk like you're describing) that it's taking too bloody long to read it in your shiny new eeePC (Heh... Those of you nattering on and on about the eeePC being "better" than the Pandora are in for a serious disappointment... ;) :D) and pull the card out. No hang, no crash. Works perfectly well with a FAT32 formatted card immediately afterwards.

Hangs aren't from stably working drivers with unexpected downages unless it's a critical piece like the root filesystem, swap, etc. And Linux wouldn't be the only one with those problems, mind. If you've got the same class of issue, Windows won't fare any better either.
 
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i dont know which is cheaper, sd or micro sd, but i know that i always buy micro sd cards for my PSP and i got an adaptor for it to work as a pro duo. I know sd's are as expensive as pro duos but but if they are trying doing this. I bought a 8Gb micro sd that came with adaptors for SD & Pro Duo. it cost me 70 bucks but i think it was worth it.
 
Kloplop321 said:
or anything that can change polarity in a super small amount of space.
2 terabyte cards that somebody can fit in a small sieve of a belt seems awesome
Damn, how much on the go porn do you need?
 
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CandidStan said:
Kloplop321 said:
or anything that can change polarity in a super small amount of space.
2 terabyte cards that somebody can fit in a small sieve of a belt seems awesome
Damn, how much on the go porn do you need?

I don't look at porn you pervert.
 
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Kloplop321 said:
CandidStan said:
Kloplop321 said:
or anything that can change polarity in a super small amount of space.
2 terabyte cards that somebody can fit in a small sieve of a belt seems awesome
Damn, how much on the go porn do you need?

I don't look at porn you pervert.


Nice sense of humor. <_<
 
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