Q: Warranty At 800Mhz?

[PhonicUK]

(Searched first, found nothing)

Since running the Panda at the 800MHz mark isn't *technically* an overclock (Since the chip is specifically designed to do it at a slightly higher voltage, at a reduced lifespan IIRC) Would users who clocked to 800MHz and then have the device fail (Due to hardware failure) within the warranty period still have those warranties honored?

Or would using the higher speed void the warranty as its higher than the factory shipped speed.

I might be wrong about the clocks though so feel free to flame me

 

[mali]

If you tell them that it failed due to overclocking it's your fault

 

[Poem58]

If you tell them that it failed due to overclocking it's your fault

Some people (like Myself) value honesty and this question is very interesting. I too would probably like to run my machine at 800mhz for some tasks but if that were to somehow kill it, I would feel compelled to tell O.P. that it happened while I was doing that. If it is covered if I have it OC'd then fine. If my OC'ing kills it, then that's MY fault and they don't have the obligation to replace it, unless they allow this in the warranty. Technically speaking, the warranty is only for a year, and the discussions of OC'ing said that the lifespan reduction would be minimal. Therefore logic would reason that if the CPU failed in the first year, it wouldn't be due to the overclocking and would have been a bum chip. The protection elements of the processor should have kept damage from occurring by shutting down, so yeah, it should be covered. Confirmation would be nice, but logically speaking, shouldn't have to be confirmed. I understand what Mali is saying here, but I applaud the OP for asking and being conscientious.

P.S. Mali- a reread may have seemed like I was saying you had no morals and were suggesting lying. No, I know what you were saying that it was his fault if he mentioned why, well, crap, I guess that is lying. LOL You moral-less freak...LOL!

 

[mali]

I guess that they will copy and paste a standard warranty policy. If they include the overclocking function in the OS, which they do afaik, one could most likely refute a non-overclocking clause. So as a whole I don't see a problem and also I don't expect the CPU to fail.

edit:
@Poem58
I haven't taken offense at all and respect you for your honesty, which is rather rare these days

 

[marshal]

I am not a specialist but from what I've reed on the forum it seems unlikely overclocking would do any permanent damage to the Hardware. It might/will reduce it's lifespan a bit but it would still easily run for more than 1 year.

To be honest I am not exactly sure how high you can push the voltage on the Pandora. I would imagine pushing the voltage much higher than needed would be the most dangerous. Then again it's probably not possible to push the voltage nearly quite than high.

Now don't go complain to Openpandora if your Pandora start crashing randomly at more than 600mhz and you lost your data... the pandora hardware itself should be pretty bulletproof because you can always reflash it

 

[shunun]

I doubt It'll be possible to damage the CPU by Overclocking. It should shutdown when it reaches a certain temperature.

 

[Butterman]

If they do fail the warranty then they're not following the standard. As far as overclocking with PC parts goes, you firstly, can't cause a hardware failure from overclocking (unless inadequate thermal protection was in place, but generally the device will downclock itself to avoid burning out). Unless you're raising voltages where you shouldn't be, the manufacturer will generally replace the device (even if the failure was caused by overclocking). In extension, most manufacturers offer software to overclock their hardware.

 

[mali]

I doubt It'll be possible to damage the CPU by Overclocking. It should shutdown when it reaches a certain temperature.

After a quick glance at the datasheet the only reference to a temperature sensor I found was for the RAM. So, I don't think the SoC is able to detect overheating. I might be mistaken, though.

 

[craigix]

As we keep telling you an arm cpu != to an x86 cpu!

 

[Mutilator]

arm will crash well before it gets hot

 

[Mofokubik]

I've ruined video cards by overclocking them, I wouldn't want to ruin my pandora this way. How does the pandora handle overclocking? Will you be able to set the clock rate yourself, or is it set somewhere in the pnd? Considering some users out there might not know the dangers (if any) of overclocking, maybe there should be a warning message displayed the first time you overclock.

 

[craigix]

This issue needs to be a sticky thread, or it's just going to keep happening.

 

[mali]

This issue needs to be a sticky thread, or it's just going to keep happening.

So, overclocking doesn't void the warranty and we can let this thread die?

 

[craigix]

No, we can sticky it because it has been asked many times before.

An ARM CPU does not generate much heat. Overclocking it will probably just crash it if it isn't happy.

Obviously someone opening up their Pandora, hacking a voltage increase (GP32 Style) would void it. But software increases won't cause anything more than a crash.

 

[mali]

No, we can sticky it because it has been asked many times before.

An ARM CPU does not generate much heat. Overclocking it will probably just crash it if it isn't happy.

Obviously someone opening up their Pandora, hacking a voltage increase (GP32 Style) would void it. But software increases won't cause anything more than a crash.

The OP's question may have been asked before, but it seems that it hasn't been answered yet, and still hasn't
The ARM-heat debate is just the usual off topic stray and hasn't anything to do with the OP's question.

 

[mali]

So what is the purpose of this sticky?

Showing how stupid off topic discussions about ARM overclocking are, or showing how impossible it is to get an answer to a reasonable question?

Declare yourself MOD, please

 

[MDave]

arm will crash well before it gets hot

We need to make the message big and bold:

It will crash well before it gets hot from overclocking. It's not a PC x86 processor!

 

[may88]

No, we can sticky it because it has been asked many times before.

An ARM CPU does not generate much heat. Overclocking it will probably just crash it if it isn't happy.

Obviously someone opening up their Pandora, hacking a voltage increase (GP32 Style) would void it. But software increases won't cause anything more than a crash.

The OP's question may have been asked before, but it seems that it hasn't been answered yet, and still hasn't
The ARM-heat debate is just the usual off topic stray and hasn't anything to do with the OP's question.

Looks answered to me.

 

[mali]

@MDave
Actually, this is very wrong. I don't know how much knowledge people have about overclocking ARM chips. I killed an Asus Mypal A600 by overclocking and my Dell x50v failed because of heat. I proved this by experimentation and added a heatspreader to get 702MHz stable.

edit:
In layman's terms: ARM CPUs behave exactly like x86 CPUs when overclocked. Overclocking above the limit on a too low voltage will cause errors and overclocking at higher voltage above the limit will cause a freeze due to overheating.

 

[mali]

Looks answered to me.

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