Open2x Dr7 For F100 And F200

[Orkie]

There is Samba in there somewhere.

 

[slaanesh]

FTPd is SLOW. 25K a second. WTF! Dev build of MAME executable is 10MB. It's takes minutes to transfer!

I did some more accurate timings - FTP transfer is slow at about 37KB a second. I'm sure that it shouldn't be that slow?

I'll have a look around for smbd - can't be to hard to find with... "find".

 

[berighteous]

I put this on my f100 and it seems nice, but the TV out (NTSC) doesn't seem to work with anything I've tried so far (mame4all, gngeo, any of ruckage's games) When I switch to TV mode the desktop comes up and looks fine. I have played with the scaling and offsets so I can see everything on the screen well enough.

but when I try and run a game, I only get the left half of the screen image, with the right half black. I can't see to select anything, since most options for things are on the right side of the screen.

I read that the rage thing crashes, but I tried it anyways, I got t he menu of games down the right side of the screen, and when I selected one (metal slug), the right half displayed for a second, then the game started, and the screen was fine for a minute or so playing the game before it crashed.

In "compatibility mode" things seem to work ok on th tv out.

What am I missing?

 

[MaxSteiner]

, the right half displayed for a second, then the game started, and the screen was fine for a minute or so playing the game before it crashed.

In "compatibility mode" things seem to work ok on th tv out.

What am I missing?

Ok, you need to select the explorer icon, and run a search for GPE's (can't remember what its called on the drop down menu).

This will then throw all of your GPE's into a seperate tab on the top of the screen.
Goto this tab, and then press select (i think...), this will then bring up all the tweaking options.
You need to fiddle about with this to get the various programs running, but essentially, you want 'TV out always on' and 'TV out force start' selected (and possible the scalling tweak as well).

And thats about it, basically, starting stuff through TV will cause you problems.
However having it set so that it starts the TV out AFTER the program has started wont.

I had the exact same problems, till I realised I was just being an idiot (see my earlier posts lol), reread the readme's and tried messing about with it all

Infact, I made a brief list iof the programs I got running and what was required earlier in this thread (exceptionally unclearly, but such is my way). Honestly, once you realise how simple it is, you, like me will be kicking yourself!
(oh yeah, I haven't had to use compat mode at all so far, I'd say leave it be)

 

[berighteous]

Thanx!

But I don't want tv out EVERY time I play something, just once in a while. Will the TV out work from the TV out icon eventually?

I tried your suggestions and most things worked better, but a couple apps were very glitchy - one that I created in game editor that played fine using the normal tv out in firmware 3 (and in comp mode here) was very glitchy. The first time I ran it it split the tv screen in half and played 2 copies of the video side by side, like the odd scan lines on the left squished thin, and the even scan lines on the right. I quit it and tried it again and it played full screen, but every second or so it the whole screen would glitch out and come back. freaky.

I got ruckman to play good though, even though it's too big for the screen.


I was really hoping this would make the TV out better than the stock firmware. I like the extra controls, but it doesn't seem to look or act any "better."

The GP2x's TV out is really weak. Who makes a TV out that doesn't automagically rescale the video to fit in the TV safe area? I thought that was part of every TV out chip made since the 90's. Heck, my 4 year old Lyra Jukebox mp3 player's TV out shows the whole screen!

It looks useless for making a gp2x based arcade cabinet (actually the reason I bought the GP2X 2 years ago when it advertised TV out, I expected it to actually show the whole screen on the TV, like every other tv out device I own.)

The scaling is horrible, especially in mame. If you can't play pacman on the TV without it looking like garbage, or missing the top and bottom of the game board, that's just sad. <sigh> I'm just using the TV out cable plugged into the bottom of the GP2X. Is using the cradle any better?

Open 2x really rocks though! Very sweet. I can't wait until it all works.

I couldn't get the mp3 player to play my mp3's, there's probably a trick to that too. The compatibility mp3 player just plays them. I just want to select a mp3 file and have it play it.

 

[slaanesh]

FTPd is SLOW. 25K a second. WTF! Dev build of MAME executable is 10MB. It's takes minutes to transfer!

I did some more accurate timings - FTP transfer is slow at about 37KB a second. I'm sure that it shouldn't be that slow?

I'll have a look around for smbd - can't be to hard to find with... "find".

I couldn't find the smbd. Found smbclient.

Anyway, I've gone back to GPH firmware 2.1.1 with Notaz SDHC patch.
I think Open2X is better for the end user (especially with Gmenu2x) but I think for ease of development the original GPH OS still has the edge.

 

[MaxSteiner]

Well, I haven't used TV out for anything much other than SNES, MAME, Genesis and a bit of FBA, so I can't really comment, but appart from the FBA seriously freaking out the GP2x once I exit, I haven't had any problems with it really... I'd suggest further tweaking, but it sounds a bit insulting (I did manage to eliminate half screen problems by doing just that though)

 

[Exophase]

FTPd is SLOW. 25K a second. WTF! Dev build of MAME executable is 10MB. It's takes minutes to transfer!

I did some more accurate timings - FTP transfer is slow at about 37KB a second. I'm sure that it shouldn't be that slow?

I'll have a look around for smbd - can't be to hard to find with... "find".


File transfer to GP2X has always been painfully slow for me. Where you ftp'ing to? At first I thought USB 1.1 was the botlleneck, but then I found once that going to somewhere mounted in memory is much faster than going to somewhere mounted in SD or NAND. If you're doing temporary work you might want to try this, then transfer when you're ready. At the very least I'd be curious as to how it benches in comparison.

 

[slaanesh]

Using GPH OS I can get 950KB/s transfer writing to my SD card
/tmp is a RAM based filesystem and easy enough to make bigger. I get 2760KB/s writing here.

 

[senquack]

was very glitchy. The first time I ran it it split the tv screen in half and played 2 copies of the video side by side, like the odd scan lines on the left squished thin, and the even scan lines on the right. I quit it and tried it again and it played full screen, but every second or so it the whole screen would glitch out and come back. freaky.

This is more than likely because the program was compiled with HW-accelerated SDL. It will never work because that SDL library trashes the scaling registers constantly. Nothing i can do about it, sorry.

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I got ruckman to play good though, even though it's too big for the screen.

You can fix this by adjusting your X and Y scaling percentages to, perhaps, 95% or thereabouts. TVs have overscan areas and that is what you are seeing get cut off.

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I was really hoping this would make the TV out better than the stock firmware. I like the extra controls, but it doesn't seem to look or act any "better."

Believe me, it's a lot better. You jus are trying a few things that maybe aren't ideal.

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The GP2x's TV out is really weak. Who makes a TV out that doesn't automagically rescale the video to fit in the TV safe area? I thought that was part of every TV out chip made since the 90's. Heck, my 4 year old Lyra Jukebox mp3 player's TV out shows the whole screen!

I agree it is weak, but TVs have always had overscan issues and you probably were missing varying amounts of the Sonic screen depending on whose house you were playing at that day when you were a kid. If you play sonic on the GP2X you will notice that the Score counter is well inside the screen area - this is so it is always visible on any TV no matter what the overscan. On the GP2X you see stuff you never, ever saw on a television.

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It looks useless for making a gp2x based arcade cabinet (actually the reason I bought the GP2X 2 years ago when it advertised TV out, I expected it to actually show the whole screen on the TV, like every other tv out device I own.)

The scaling is horrible, especially in mame. If you can't play pacman on the TV without it looking like garbage, or missing the top and bottom of the game board, that's just sad. <sigh> I'm just using the TV out cable plugged into the bottom of the GP2X. Is using the cradle any better?

The scaling in Mame is of varying qualities but if you read the README you will see my loooong mention of hints and explanations regarding the TV out. Basically, stick with 4:3 modes because Rlyeh's minlib trashes the vertical scaling register. The woes of the GP2X are 50% hardware and 50% library mistakes and I am only doing my best. It is a lot better with the Open2X tv tweaker.
Open 2x really rocks though! Very sweet. I can't wait until it all works.

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I couldn't get the mp3 player to play my mp3's, there's probably a trick to that too. The compatibility mp3 player just plays them. I just want to select a mp3 file and have it play it.

If you don't know already how to use GMU (the best GP2X media player for music) then I'd suggest downloading it from the archive and reading the Readme file inside it. It will explain what to do. Basically you switch between Playing Mode, File Selecting Mode, and Info Mode using the SELECT button. It is fully customizable, read the readme.

 

[Alghazanth]

Sorry if it is a boring question ; but I wondered if F100's start supporting SDHC cards after installing the Open2x ?

yes though you don't need open2x if you just need sdhc support, notaz had a patch which was posted in the forums (for firmware 2.11)


I have firmware 3.0 which came installed. I had lots of problems installing dr6 which my gp2x came to a point of being non usable I finally reverted to official firmware after having nightmares.Any feedback from pals here who had trouble with dr6 but installed dr7 without problems vice versa ? I have no intention of trying something like downgrading (dont know if its really possible anyway) for sdhc support.

I almost gave up on open2x after lots of attempts. I dont have much interest in tvout or joypad functions since I never use them but I'd really like to use a 16gb sd card for more gigantic neogeo roms and putting movies- anime on gp2x without needing to delete the episode I wathced at the same day for putting another one.

Any suggestion - ideas very welcome

Thanks

 

[senquack]

Thanks

The logical things to do would be to try the following:

1.) Re-download the Open2X package. Be sure to try extracting the Open2X package using a different archiver. I recommend 7zip. Be sure to check that the option to ignore empty folders is turned off. If these important empty folders are not created nothing will work right.

2.) Try using a different SD card. If that doesn't work, try using a card freshly formatted with FAT16. (Or, FAT32 if that doesn't work).

3.) Try another SD card writer. (Mine went bad and started corrupting things causing all sorts of weirdness as you might imagine)

 

[hitbyambulance]

i just have to say... i decided (last night) to finally install Open2x on my system... and after seeing how great it looked after upgrading the firmware, it inspired me to completely reorganize my SD cards, download new updates for games and apps i already had, and download a pile of new ones. hours later.... it's now 6AM and i think i should go to bed...

 

[hitbyambulance]

how do you go about adding an application shortcut, as well as making application groups?

 

[Macguyver]

Just to ask the obvious question - Does the new USB abilities of Open 2x still require the cradle?

I only ask because I thought the GP2X had a mini-USB connector. Perhaps the open2x firmware has done some magic? (I'm sure this is too good to be true)

Thanks

 

[senquack]

Just to ask the obvious question - Does the new USB abilities of Open 2x still require the cradle?

I only ask because I thought the GP2X had a mini-USB connector. Perhaps the open2x firmware has done some magic? (I'm sure this is too good to be true)

Thanks

No, that is not a USB host port unfortunately. That means it can only connect to a computer through that port, not to a device and it is because of the hardware.

You can[/] modify your GP2X to have a USB host port but it is a lot of work and very rarely done.

 

[senquack]

how do you go about adding an application shortcut, as well as making application groups?

Simply hit the Select button to bring up the context menu. (If using an F200, it is labeled something stupid like HOME I think.

 

[hitbyambulance]

how do you go about adding an application shortcut, as well as making application groups?

Simply hit the Select button to bring up the context menu. (If using an F200, it is labeled something stupid like HOME I think.

thanks.

a few more:

- how to get GReader to see ebooks on an SD card? it won't navigate to the SD root directory (or any directory on SD) and i don't know where to look to edit the config files on the NAND (nor how to access them).

- Wind & Water Puzzle Battles (retail version) has messed-up colors when launched through Open2X dr 7, and will only work correctly in compatibility mode. I had read elsewhere on this board that W&W worked fine in Open2X, but someone else had reported this same issue.

- is there a way to rearrange the icons for the applications? (ie, putting favorite games in the first 20 slots)

 

[Orkie]

How many times do I have to say this? Run W&W in MK1 mode.

 

[noabody]

My first time using Open2x on original F-200 MK1 that shipped with FW 4.0 . Most of my SDHC cards are unusable. The SD icon shows up blue on bottom left but with no capacity information.

What's weird is the PNY 4GB class 4 I had been using fine with FW 4.0 doesn't work anymore. I reformatted it FAT32 several times with different cluster sizes then zero'd out the first 1k of the drive in linux and formatted it again fat16 and fat32 with no difference.

I have RiData, PNY and Transcend SDHC. So far only the Transcend is working. I have to say that I like Open2x but there is no doubt that it broke SDHC support on my F-200 which is a major bummer. I guess I'll wait for a patch. Dmesg has 20 or more lines of divide by zero errors similar to those discussed here http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?/topic/35840-experimental-sdhc-support-for-gp2x/page__view__findpost__p__549205 .