Nintendo Revolution, First Pictures

[Mark]

The good thing about the Revolution is that it will help to eliminate the 'toy shop' scenario to an extent.

I mean, when you download a game on the PC, it's free so the temptation is to play it for five minutes and then forget about it. With the Revolution, you're still paying for them, so there's more of an inclination to actually play on them.

 

[bast525]

I dunno I kinda have to agree with Declaration... I used to have a bunch of emu's on my PC... but I didn't play them much.. it DIDN"T feel the same... it was a bit more of a hassle having to boot up and sit in my relatively uncomfortable PC chair for long periods of time, plus the logitech controller I have sucks.

But then I modded my Xbox... and now I have these emu's that I can play on any regular TV, from the comfort of my couch, with a real gamepad.... just turn the system on and moments later I'm in a game... it 'feels' like playing the real thing to me. Now I play them quite often, unlike when I only had them on the PC. For the most part they run 100% perfect speed with 100% perfect sound so really *I* can't tell any difference. I actually own the real hardware for most of the older systems NES thru N64, and all those systems were cluttering up my entertainment center, but now with the Xbox I was able to put a lot of those older systems in the closet... I never find myself tempted to pull any of them out to play on because it 'feels better' to play on the actual hardware... that just isn't the case. I'm much happier to have them all on one box, and added conveniences like save states have made it even easier and more enjoyable to go back and play many older favorites again, or to finally experience some of the greats that I missed the first time, and enjoy them just as much as if I was playing 'the real thing'.

 

[davey g]

The good thing about the Revolution is that it will help to eliminate the 'toy shop' scenario to an extent.

I mean, when you download a game on the PC, it's free so the temptation is to play it for five minutes and then forget about it. With the Revolution, you're still paying for them, so there's more of an inclination to actually play on them.

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Yes!

 

[Magus 86]

"when you download a game on the PC, it's free so the temptation is to play it for five minutes and then forget about it." ???!?!?!?!? what the hell are you talking about? I play more with my emulators than my PS2 games that I actually paid for... I play with my emulators because unlike the real systems, you can actually plya with people who aren't 2 feet from you. I played thru Seiken Densetsu 3 at least twice now, and I started a 3rd game which I haven't finished yet... and I didn't pay a single cent for it. I played thru Chrono Trigger at least 4 times since I first got the rom of it. I played thru Zelda 3 at least twice. I play Tecmo Super Bowl with a friend at least once a week. I also played Double Dragon 2 with him at least 20 times. I played Contra with him at least 5 times, Jackal with him at least 5 times, North & South at least 10 times, and we've gone thru Super Mario Brothers 3 about 4 times now... Whether I paid for something or not has nothing to do with how much I'll use it. If something can get damaged over time due to increased use, then maybe I'd use it less than I would if it wouldn't become damaged as it was used, but that still wouldn't have anything to do with whether or not I bought it. I'd say that at least 75% of the things I have right now have not been bought by me. I still have a lot of stuff from a long time ago that my family got for me as birthday/christmas presents, because I needed it(clothing, shoes, etc.), or just for the heck of it(didn't happen very often). The few things I actually do own because I earned the money for them are used less than everything else. They consist of a bunch of airsoft guns, my videogame soundtrack collection, my very small DVD collection, about 6 books, a bunch of PS2 games, a bunch of PSX games, my SNES, and my GP32. Only one of those things is used on a daily basis - The GP32.

 

[shinneri]

The good thing about the Revolution is that it will help to eliminate the 'toy shop' scenario to an extent.

I mean, when you download a game on the PC, it's free so the temptation is to play it for five minutes and then forget about it. With the Revolution, you're still paying for them, so there's more of an inclination to actually play on them.

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haha, that's a good point.

 

[Magus 86]

Okay then, let me ask you this... How often do you play games on your GP32? You don't have to pay for those games at all, so if the desire to play is linked to money spent on something, then technically you shouldn't play each game or mess with each program for more than 5 minutes, right?

 

[mattmagoo]

Okay then, let me ask you this... How often do you play games on your GP32? You don't have to pay for those games at all, so if the desire to play is linked to money spent on something, then technically you shouldn't play each game or mess with each program for more than 5 minutes, right?

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I dont usually play on my gp32 for more than 5 minutes

I agree completely with Mark

I have the same problem with my DC, I tried to play everygame, then i went back and commited myself so only playing 1 or 2 new games a month, and tbh it was more fun

 

[junker]

yeah, the 'toy shop scenario"
back when i first got my xbox modded, i was swimmnig in xbox games, but the games i played the most were the ones i bought. now i don't bother with 'back ups', and only buy the few games here and there that really interest me. emulation on the other hand i play aaaallll the time, day or night, rain or shine.

 

[White Demon]

"when you download a game on the PC, it's free so the temptation is to play it for five minutes and then forget about it." ???!?!?!?!? what the hell are you talking about?

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What Mark would be talking about is with the fact that ROMs are available for no cost, many people would download a whole lot of them, play them all for a few minutes each, then promptly forget about them and just go back to playing the ROMs of games they remember most.

For example, you mention playing Seiken Densetsu 3, Chrono Trigger, Zelda 3, Tecmo Super Bowl, Double Dragon 2, Contra, Jackal, North & South and Super Mario Brothers 3. Now I ask you, how many of those you play because you have fond memories of enjoying these games on their original systems, and how many of them have you discovered purely through trying out ROMs?

That's this '5 minute' idea, that since you have access to so much stuff you'll play most of them for a short time before going back to what you remember playing from old systems.

 

[watoto]

yeah,but that's because not all games are good.that's why people ask over oand over again for listst of good games forevery system

 

[bast525]

I've made it a point to try every game for every system back to 8 bit NES, and once I tried each of them for at least a few minutes, I then try to pick out the ones I remember getting good reviews either from friends or magazines (was a subscriber to EGM even way back then) and spend a bit more time with those. Also if I try a game I had never heard of and it is pretty fun in those first few minutes then I'll usually stick with it for some time or even complete the game.


There are many games that I had never played and many I had never even heard of at all that I have 'discovered' in this way and enjoyed via my Xbox. I have not spent much time at all going back and playing games I had already owned/played and had fond memories of... seems a waste of time to me when there are hundreds of games I know to be good that I haven't really gotten to try yet, just waiting for me.

 

[Magus 86]

"when you download a game on the PC, it's free so the temptation is to play it for five minutes and then forget about it." ???!?!?!?!? what the hell are you talking about?

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What Mark would be talking about is with the fact that ROMs are available for no cost, many people would download a whole lot of them, play them all for a few minutes each, then promptly forget about them and just go back to playing the ROMs of games they remember most.

For example, you mention playing Seiken Densetsu 3, Chrono Trigger, Zelda 3, Tecmo Super Bowl, Double Dragon 2, Contra, Jackal, North & South and Super Mario Brothers 3. Now I ask you, how many of those you play because you have fond memories of enjoying these games on their original systems, and how many of them have you discovered purely through trying out ROMs?

That's this '5 minute' idea, that since you have access to so much stuff you'll play most of them for a short time before going back to what you remember playing from old systems.

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Honestly, Seiken Densetsu 3 is the only one I never got a chance to play before emulation, and the only reason for that is because it was never released in america. The rest, I actually owned, at least at some point in my life. I still own Chrono Trigger, Zelda 3, Mario 3, and Tecmo Super Bowl. I'm not sure about the others though, I can't remember anymore. if I do still have them, they're probably in the basement somewhere.

 

[mr twit]

The good thing about the Revolution is that it will help to eliminate the 'toy shop' scenario to an extent.

I mean, when you download a game on the PC, it's free so the temptation is to play it for five minutes and then forget about it. With the Revolution, you're still paying for them, so there's more of an inclination to actually play on them.

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That is extremely true and is why I am excited about this feature.
Just the other day I downloaded SWAT 4, played it for about an hour and once it started getting slightly repetitive, I stopped playing and won't play it again, even though it is supposed to be a very good game. Same thing with Brothers in Arms last week. I don't bother giving them a proper run through because I can just go and get another game. I hardly ever play any roms for more than 5 minutes unless they are ones which I used to own.

 

[Mark]

Okay then, let me ask you this... How often do you play games on your GP32? You don't have to pay for those games at all, so if the desire to play is linked to money spent on something, then technically you shouldn't play each game or mess with each program for more than 5 minutes, right?

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I don't play on my GP32 very often at all, and when I do it's only for a few minutes normally.

However, when I used my Windows 98 PC with the dodgy USB ports (plugging the GP32 in would clash with the broadband so I couldn't do both at once) I had to be careful what I put on, so what games I did put on I played more as it was alot of effort to try.

Now, when faced with complete Romsets on my laptop I just scroll through each game quickly.

 

[junker]

I've made it a point to try every game for every system back to 8 bit NES, and once I tried each of them for at least a few minutes, I then try to pick out the ones I remember getting good reviews either from friends or magazines (was a subscriber to EGM even way back then) and spend a bit more time with those. Also if I try a game I had never heard of and it is pretty fun in those first few minutes then I'll usually stick with it for some time or even complete the game.


There are many games that I had never played and many I had never even heard of at all that I have 'discovered' in this way and enjoyed via my Xbox. I have not spent much time at all going back and playing games I had already owned/played and had fond memories of... seems a waste of time to me when there are hundreds of games I know to be good that I haven't really gotten to try yet, just waiting for me.

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yeah, me too. there were a lot of classics and greats i've missed out on and that i've enjoyed playing on emulators. i've also stumbled onto many good games i have never heard of or would not have given a chance

 

[c0ncept]

Obviously they aren't infrared. If the controller isn't lined up with the IR sensor it won't work. And it is impossible for IR beams to go through walls so the controllers are definetly RF.

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oh man, your doing it again Youn don't work work for nintendo so unless you have a mole deep in their RandD department, you have no idea what the controllers are definately going to be. In a nutshell, please stfu.

I don't play on my GP32 very often at all, and when I do it's only for a few minutes normally.

However, when I used my Windows 98 PC with the dodgy USB ports (plugging the GP32 in would clash with the broadband so I couldn't do both at once) I had to be careful what I put on, so what games I did put on I played more as it was alot of effort to try.

Now, when faced with complete Romsets on my laptop I just scroll through each game quickly.

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I completely agree, which is why although it might seem strange I think the limited 512meg of memory is a great thing. It means I'll be careful what I download and won't put anything new on until I'm utterly sick of whats already on it.

@Magus
You clearly hate this feature and the entire idea of a new nintendo console, so why don't you do us a favour a stop talking. Seriously, throughout this whole thread I've only heard negative things from you.

 

[sam fisher]

he is talking about 360 so stfu!

 

[c0ncept]

whichever console he's talking about is irrelevant. The point is he doesn't know, but tries to give the impression that he does.

 

[Magus 86]

... Oh yeah... saying that it's a good idea nintendo is finally doing something like this but that I have no use for it and can't understand why you people are getting so excited over it when it's no different than emulation except that you'll be paying for it is definitely very negative. it's also negative to say that emulation is no different than playing on the real console. Mentioning how much I've played of certain games on emulators is sure as hell negative too... Why don't you get your head out of your ass and stop saying that everything I've said is negative when it clearly isn't? excuse me for being the only one here who doesn't make a conscious decision to only play a game for a few minutes, no matter how good it is just because he can get more... Even though it's the exact same situation as if you were paying for them. If you were like bill gates and had a lot of money, would the same situation apply? you're still paying money for the games whether you have a lot of money or not. I've never heard of ANYBODY only playing a game for 5 minutes because it's free in my entire life until I came to this forum.

 

[Mark]

I've never heard of ANYBODY only playing a game for 5 minutes because it's free in my entire life until I came to this forum.

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Perhaps you should open your eyes then. We aren't some special breed.