Gameboy Advance Emulator.


bmilleker posted on Dec 10 2005 at 11:29 PM said:
I think people would donate a lot of cash to a GBA emulator. I know i would for sure.

Yep... there's gonna be a £10'er or so from me for a full speed emu, which i'd use for only Harvest Moon and Shining Force games...
 
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I'd love a GBA emulator because a GP2X is alot less to carry around than a DS. But I think a dev would have to be completely insane to code a GBA emu. The GBA is already portable, and there are already pretty inexpensive tools to play ROMs off SD cards on it.
 
I dont think that morality thread needs to be revisited again. a GBA emulator will eventually be attempted whether it's moral or not. Period.
 
icurafu posted on Dec 10 2005 at 11:43 PM said:
I'd donate to all good fast emulators except a GBA one. I just don't think it is moral for anyone to make money from gba emulation yet.

In a year or two maybe. ;)

Certainly the hardware is there.


come on... :p Feeling guilt towards nintendo... :lol:
 
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Morality about making an emulator is different from being convinced to make one from people offering donations.

I'm not going to run crying to nintendo if someone makes one, I'll probably use it (a bit). I just wont donate unil the GBAs coffin is nailed shut.
 
Saxton_boy posted on Dec 10 2005 at 11:38 PM said:
bmilleker posted on Dec 10 2005 at 11:29 PM said:
I think people would donate a lot of cash to a GBA emulator. I know i would for sure.

Yep... there's gonna be a £10'er or so from me for a full speed emu, which i'd use for only Harvest Moon and Shining Force games...

Whats wrong with the SNES and mega drive emus then?
SNES Harvest Moon is still the best IMO, much better then the hard to control GBA version (which with a control stick will be even worse)


If a dev does decide to make a GBA emulator then they still have to decide to release it to the public. If I was a dev I'd feel very uneasy about doing this.
 
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id definetly donate a bit to a nice speed GBA emu :)
i wish i could donate like £20 to every emu for their hard work but being a student i cant D;
 
Phil posted on Dec 11 2005 at 10:38 AM said:
THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT EMULATORS!!!
Never said there was. I'm sure you know that legality doesn't stop a Big Giant Company (tm) from sueing an individual, out of which comes having to pay for lawyers and the like.

If such a case properly goes through trial, surely the emulator writer would be acquitted. However, most individuals would get ruined by the fees it takes to defend themselves (as no contest doesn't get you very far), and would much rather comply with the cease-and-decist.
 
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Exactly. Emulators themselves- the software- is perfectly legal, whatever games companies may like to tell us. It's just that getting images of non PD games you don't own is illegal ;). But a large corporation will usually have no problems causing trouble if they really want to (ie if they see it as a threat to their own profits) as iignotus said.

Also, AFAIK many of those "disclaimers" particularly the notorious "24 hour" rule (that says you must delete downloaded images after 24 hours if you do not own the original) are complete BS. And the extent some sites go to to try to cover their asses is incredible (but understandable). I won't name any names, because that would get me in trouble with admin in these forums, but at least one emu site claims that the reason they have these files is "as part of our personal backup solution"- yeah right- it's just sheer coincidence that those rules also state that you may not enter if you work for any government agency? And that, whilst one needs a username and password to access the pages with files, they give them out on the very same page? ;)

Personally, I have little interest in GBA emu (my DS is fine for GBA), but if it happens, it will be a pretty cool thing :)
 
Lets think about developing a GBA emu on the 2X:

Porting something like VBA is useless - emulating a ARM processor in C is going to be incredibly slow, and writing an a ARM ASM ARM emulator is just daft :)

We can't use the 940 for the task of emulating the GBA's main processor, as it doesn't have an MMU, only an MPU. So this means we need to use the 920, and guess who already has control of that? Yup, Linux. So the best way of dealing with this is to bounce out of Linux land into our own, run the GBA code on the 920 and do all the other crap like graphics emulation on the 940.

Problem is however, unless we can run the 920 at 16Mhz, and the 940 at some decent speed like 200Mhz (possibly lower, I can't guess how much performance would be required for management yet), how are we going to run the GBA code at a correct speed? The only way I can think off is having a hardware timer interrupt the normal flow of the 920, and sleep for so long before returning to allow it to continue on, but this is only a very rough approximation whilst the ideal way would allow per-instruction timing.
 
iignotus posted on Dec 11 2005 at 05:11 PM said:
Phil posted on Dec 11 2005 at 10:38 AM said:
THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT EMULATORS!!!
Never said there was. I'm sure you know that legality doesn't stop a Big Giant Company (tm) from sueing an individual, out of which comes having to pay for lawyers and the like.

If such a case properly goes through trial, surely the emulator writer would be acquitted. However, most individuals would get ruined by the fees it takes to defend themselves (as no contest doesn't get you very far), and would much rather comply with the cease-and-decist.
That may be how it works in the US but certainly not how it works in Sweden. Don't take for granted that every country has your ridiculous laws and procedures regarding sueing.
 
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iignotus posted on Dec 11 2005 at 09:11 AM said:
Phil posted on Dec 11 2005 at 10:38 AM said:
THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT EMULATORS!!!
Never said there was. I'm sure you know that legality doesn't stop a Big Giant Company (tm) from sueing an individual, out of which comes having to pay for lawyers and the like.

If such a case properly goes through trial, surely the emulator writer would be acquitted. However, most individuals would get ruined by the fees it takes to defend themselves (as no contest doesn't get you very far), and would much rather comply with the cease-and-decist.

I agree. Don't forget that Breemcast BANKRUPTED due to piling up legal fees. Whether you win or lose in court doesn't matter, if you're financially completely ruined anyway. Personally, I use emulators because those systems are not available any more, but I have to doubt the cause if someone tries to USE emulator of system that's still widely available.
 
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pip posted on Dec 11 2005 at 01:17 PM said:
iignotus posted on Dec 11 2005 at 05:11 PM said:
Phil posted on Dec 11 2005 at 10:38 AM said:
THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT EMULATORS!!!
Never said there was. I'm sure you know that legality doesn't stop a Big Giant Company (tm) from sueing an individual, out of which comes having to pay for lawyers and the like.

If such a case properly goes through trial, surely the emulator writer would be acquitted. However, most individuals would get ruined by the fees it takes to defend themselves (as no contest doesn't get you very far), and would much rather comply with the cease-and-decist.
That may be how it works in the US but certainly not how it works in Sweden. Don't take for granted that every country has your ridiculous laws and procedures regarding sueing.
Well I guess you don't mind only playing Sweden-local games right? And, not that I condone it, but America does sometimes act like they own the world, and have been very succesful at trying to prove that point throughout history.

What is different about the laws in the US and those in Sweden about this particular matter?
 
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