Dragonbox Pyra Discord : REBORN


It's a shame there will be no bridge between IRC and Discord.
I don't have the need to use it (Jitsi Meet via web is enough for my needs), but it seems to be a thing, even on the Linux gaming community.

They made bridges, mostly using Matrix, because people like me asked for it.

It's the only way for them to come back to IRC, when the next trending messaging program closes it's doors, ;)
 
There's already a web bridge for IRC (http://webchat.freenode.net/). If you want to talk on IRC but dont want to install an IRC client use that interface. It's the one I'm using since years.

My issues with Discord <-> IRC bridge is that Discord doesnt disclose to IRC who is currently connected throw the bridge. If someone talk using that bridge you have no way to identify that the used nick is the real guy behind that nick.

If I want to share a picture, imgur is there to the rescue. And trust me, nobody would want a voice chat with me. I just dont see a point at yet an other community tool. We have the wikis, the irc channels, the boards, gitlab. That should be more than enough
 
sebt3 said:
There's already a web bridge for IRC (http://webchat.freenode.net/). If you want to talk on IRC but dont want to install an IRC client use that interface. It's the one I'm using since years.
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Always used IRC clients, like Quassel now, but only to not have to remember server names and channels.
I try to avoid joining more FLOSS projects related channels this days, not enough time.

sebt3 said:
My issues with Discord <-> IRC bridge is that Discord doesnt disclose to IRC who is currently connected throw the bridge. If someone talk using that bridge you have no way to identify that the used nick is the real guy behind that nick.
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I recently configured Quassel to connect to Twitch chats, but their bridge to IRC doesn't disclose connected users either, but i saw some like clients Chatty that at least can do it, using their APIS.

sebt3 said:
If I want to share a picture, imgur is there to the rescue.
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As easy as hitting Impr Pant on the keyboard, Export image -> Share -> Imgur, at least using Plasma 5, ;)
 
Robert Taylor said:
The mind simply boggles. People would rather grandstand and sign up for various bullshit services and pretend they are providing value INSTEAD OF providing content which is the real value that anyone cares about.
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The word "content" devalued much in recent years. In modern Internet "content" is a text made for insertion of advertisement. It has clickbait title, buzzword-filled header and keywords are inserted into it to make them links for SEO. Its value, as practical or theoretical knowledge, is not important and usually is not present at all. Recently "content" is found on most sites, theory on Wikipedia, while practical and useful knowledge has its most concentration in Internet Archive :).

And about subscribing to this "Discord". Although I prefer free software, I don't have objections about proprietary software if it's distributed on a fair and clear conditions. I went to this "channel" ans I saw:
1. Bitmapped fonts without anti-aliasing, on 6 different browsers.
2. Lots of free space. No, without adblock, it is made the way to "blow" the screen to bump needed resolution up.
3. Animations everywhere. Blinking, flashing, pulsing animations outside of chat window.
4. Scarce settings changing 2-3 useful things, all other things not being useful at all.
This looks like a bait to make users think that there is a possibility to use this with browser, but it forces to install unknown "application" and... e.g. give access to files, keystrokes, maybe passwords? It is a malware practice and we have to clearly say that this is no choice.
 
Weird, in my experience the downloadable program version and browser webpage version are almost identical.
 
Wally said:
You don't need to remember servers or see verbose output every time and that can be problematic for some :p
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Good call, really. I forgot that. Also the networks and channels. And commands. Not a problem if you are using a web client that connects you directly to a specific channel and that is all you want to use.

I don't constantly hang out on irc when on a computer (because it chews through battery life on mobile devices, so almost never idling on irc with those) because I want to know when anything happens in my channels, yet I am usually wasting time to see that somebody left/joined/timed out. It is a distraction away from whatever else I am doing. For me it is like Facebook in that regard, as I will waste tons of time looking at pointless shit or political arguments that I don't care about, or cat pictures which I do but that are still a waste of time, instead of getting anything useful.

(There is some useful discussion on FB, and unfortunately I am using it more for this over the last several months since the Yahoo groups where a certain set of topics are discussed has dried up and everyone moved to private FB groups. As if that wasn't already bad enough, trying to find old content on FB sucks compared to many of the other options out there, and it seems the people in charge of these gross either don't know how, or don't want to be bothered with setting up and maintaining a forum. Since major parts of these topics revolve around history and very obscure events or people, along with mythology, philosophy, religion, anthropology/folk beliefs and practices, superstition, science and precursors to modern science, etc., and some of this stuff isn't widely published or hard to find, it makes it really difficult for newcomers to catch up, or even to point at previous discussions. Oh, and they don't accept names with the first letter lowercase and the last one uppercase...makes sense since they are part of the system such juvenile things are designed to oppose.)

Anyway, from my perspective as a user, these sorts of services have little to offer. When I am looking for realtime communication I go for chat, like irc, unless it is one on one. That is like walking into the room next door to talk to the people, so I don't expect that stuff to be retained and referenced by others later. It is good for actively working on something, or just to chat. The rest of the time a forum or something is better, as it allows people to find that info years later, and see it in context, or how it developed. A wiki is useful for just getting to the point (this is the keyboard layout, instead of how we decided on it).

So irc is fine for me, and it has less potential problems, imo, compared to the other currently popular stuff.
 
Silent-Hunter said:
Weird, in my experience the downloadable program version and browser webpage version are almost identical.
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That's because the Discord app is literally a modified version of chromium. I'm serious you can press Ctrl+Shift+I and it will open the chrome Developer Tools.
The reason it's they even have discord as an app is so you can map hotkeys from the desktop (say, for muting yourself) and so you don't have to allow voice access everytime. So yeah discord itself is just a webpage basically.

Also little update:
Well I was initially expecting more people, but since there's only about 10 people I've reduced the channels to 3 (the rules-and-info is just the rules to the discord and nobody can post to it without special roles)

And the suggestions channel is if you want to vote any changes to the discord channel.
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ThinkPad said:
The real Skype successor is TOX.
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The problem with TOX is that you, the user, become another node. So if your node is used to route data to an IP address that is doing bad things, your IPaddress is tainted too.
 
FBnil said:
The problem with TOX is that you, the user, become another node. So if your node is used to route data to an IP address that is doing bad things, your IPaddress is tainted too.
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The same happens on Freenet
 
And here we can see one of the downsides of centralized server structure:
All Discord channels are down... again.
 
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Oh well I'm in a discord call right now and have been for the past 3 hours or so and still going.
Last couple days in calls have been fine also.
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Maybe it's only for americans or something
 
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