COVID-19 / Coronavirus Pandemic
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I guess by information you mean opinions. Like people choose the medical mumbo jumbo that supports their unwillingness to vaccinate. I have never payed any attention to things like RNA and antibodies. Although they are real I find them distracting and impractical. I download the death and case figures and generate my own charts. I watch the BBC nightly news to keep up to date on the restrictions, but tune out when they inevitably ballyhoo vaccines. The data clearly indicates vaccines are beneficial though, I don't care about why, or any other theory.
So your problem is you gravitate to theories. I suggest looking at the basic data and drawing you're own conclusions. I think the death figures do hold meaning.
JDTAY
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No, they gently lie to you so you stay calm. Already last year Netherlands requested vaccines: 4 times the amount of the whole population, this includes the children. Everyone needs to get 4 shots. How can I explain, ah:
People are dying... but more people than expected. As you look at the figures, it also includes children...
850 sterfgevallen meer dan verwacht in een week tijd, Europese sterftecijfers stijgen
Er overlijden momenteel waarschijnlijk veel meer mensen door covid-19 dan bij het RIVM wordt gerapporteerd, blijkt uit sterftecijfers van het CBS. In Nederland is het aantal personen dat sterft na een coronabesmetting de voorbije weken snel toegenomen. Ook wereldwijd loopt de hoeveelheid...
Just like viagra. wasnt what it was for.
On a more serious note, it does have an effect: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7727890/
Lions and Gorilla's in Rotterdam Zoo got infected with Corona by humans. (Link is in Dutch)
Bijna alle gorilla's en leeuwen in Diergaarde Blijdorp hebben corona
Het leeuwendeel van de gorilla’s en leeuwen in de Rotterdamse Diergaarde Blijdorp is positief getest op corona. Het gaat om vier van de vijf Aziatische leeuwen en zeven van de acht gorilla's. "Ze hebben griepachtige verschijnselen: ze zijn hangerig, hebben minder eetlust, soms een lichte hoest...
In the USA they started early, and one zoo decimated their giraffes...
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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No. I meant that when you are confronted by stats and do not know whether they are true then it is better to just acknowledge ignorance than it is to blindly assume that they are true.
I have no problem at all. Many of my theories have become proven facts and are serving me well. In fact, recently the gas price in the Netherlands got 8 times higher. But thanks to my theories we will be having a warm and cheap winter regardless.
The people with the problem are those who gravitate toward government propaganda. They will always be caught unprepared.
Besides, I look at stats all the time. Some time ago I linked official stats proving that the measures failed, and many times I have pointed out misleading tricks such as making "fully vaccinated" refering only to people who have been fully vaccinated for 2 weeks or longer (thus likely including many deaths caused by being fully vaccinated as "death of someone who is not fully vaccinated"). Even on other issues I use official stats, such as when I proved that NASA lies by posting their temperature data from 1999 next to their temperature data from decades later. The difference is not that you use official stats and I do not, the difference is that I hold official stats to extreme scrutiny while you seem to just take them on face value.
levi
Still fresh, damnit!
Maybe it does have an effect, but in practical terms we've had the introduction of ubiqutous wifi and ever more powerful phone signals, yet our schools are still full of kids. I'm not worried.
Exactly. viagra doesn't work
ok. I'm about to conclude that you can't read.
Oh, come on... not a cheap ad-hominem. If you throw one, at least explain...
I am all ears. Please explain. Because by my accounts Europe is going into a cold winter. (in the 11 year cycle, we are still in the solar minimum).
Yeah, fish in contaminated water also thrives. Take these two contradicting websites:
Mekong River – Water Quality Woes – Scientists for the Mekong
www.scientists4mekong.com
Mekong Delta locals turn to fish farming as natural fish populations dwindle
Residents in Vietnam’s Mekong Delta region are no longer relying on seasonal flooding for much needed fish
If I take out one kidney, I would also thrive... the thing is... the BEST sperm is selected by the egg (some study found out it's not the first, but the one selected by the egg), but the "best" now is worse than, say, 21 years ago.
Here's an idea: Maybe we are getting more poor (as poor people have more children)? Inflation and those things... some manipulated (natural gas price - Russia sells less at a higher price, thanks USA for blocking the deal! Not..) Others More Natural (We temporarily lost 10% of our world grain and also some of our canola because of a flood in Canada - imagine what that will do to prices of bread over the next few months considering export quotas from Russia India and maybe Argentina)
“A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine.”
Bosbeetle
Terminally lost
Btw the police reported no death In roterdam
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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I meant "we" as in "me and my family". We will have a warm winter because we prepared for having to heat our home without the normal gas supply. And we did that because those theories i.e. facts which I gravitate towards indicated that we ought to. Thus I made the point that gravitating towards those facts is not a problem but actually a solution.
levi
Still fresh, damnit!
Out of interest, what are you doing to heat your home without using gas?
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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We use gas, just not from the grid.
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Do you have one of those bioreactors that harvests Methane from organic waste, stores it and enables you to plumb it into a boiler for heating?
Well Impfung and Empfang it's written almost the same... So... would that be 2G: Genesen oder Geempfangt ? (nein, I checked and its empfangen, sounds more German, but breaks the joke
)Btw, what's wrong with German, they use the same word for mobile phone reception and becoming pregnant ?
Pyra is 4 G (Genesen, Geimpf, Getestet, Gameboyemulator) you could translate 3G whit testet, vaccinatet, got the virus but its now healty again i dont know what its the translation for genesen..
Its now 3G at work in Germany, so you need at least a negative Test, and they want to make 3G in puplic transport, which might not be the best solution as some in the rural parts of the Country need a puplic transport to reach a Testcenter..
Vaccination might be a solution then but whe have the Anti Vaxers and even if you would get a Syringe now, it would take 6 weeks to be fully vaccinatet whit the second shot and the 2 weeks waiting time from then..
Some are now taking a paperwork from the doctor to stay at home...
Its now 3G at work in Germany, so you need at least a negative Test, and they want to make 3G in puplic transport, which might not be the best solution as some in the rural parts of the Country need a puplic transport to reach a Testcenter..
Vaccination might be a solution then but whe have the Anti Vaxers and even if you would get a Syringe now, it would take 6 weeks to be fully vaccinatet whit the second shot and the 2 weeks waiting time from then..
Some are now taking a paperwork from the doctor to stay at home...
Großartig !I think they say "recovered" in English. And they wish a prompt recovery. So 3G = tested, vaccinated or recovered.
Requiring vaccination is a false sense of security.
If some activity requires vaccination then it's better just not to do the activity. And public transport is a public service, it shouldn't depend on health choices or need access to health information.
Even with 3G people will get infected in public transport anyway.
And nobody knows for how long each vaccine works for each person anyway.
I wish they just payed for vaccines for those wanting them in Africa, etc.
Ok, the Pyra is 5G then (Great)..
It may be quite divicult to check the 3G on the Passengers: you cant even check if everyone even bought a Ticket ^^, So im happy i never had to use my Bus Driving Licence for a Job, Beeceeper Supplys are still 0G ..
It may be quite divicult to check the 3G on the Passengers: you cant even check if everyone even bought a Ticket ^^, So im happy i never had to use my Bus Driving Licence for a Job, Beeceeper Supplys are still 0G ..
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