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FBnil

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Belgium: ING bank offers in their app your medical status

On 3 juni 2022 all Europeans will have a European Digital Identifier...
 

FBnil

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What's wrong with 2G?
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That now you have to buy 2 Great Glasses of beer! Fortunately, I got 2 hands...
 

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No information is better than misinformation.
I guess by information you mean opinions. Like people choose the medical mumbo jumbo that supports their unwillingness to vaccinate. I have never payed any attention to things like RNA and antibodies. Although they are real I find them distracting and impractical. I download the death and case figures and generate my own charts. I watch the BBC nightly news to keep up to date on the restrictions, but tune out when they inevitably ballyhoo vaccines. The data clearly indicates vaccines are beneficial though, I don't care about why, or any other theory.

So your problem is you gravitate to theories. I suggest looking at the basic data and drawing you're own conclusions. I think the death figures do hold meaning.
 

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There was a general assumption you didn't need to test kids, because they don't spread Covid much and hardly ever end up in the hospital.
No, they gently lie to you so you stay calm. Already last year Netherlands requested vaccines: 4 times the amount of the whole population, this includes the children. Everyone needs to get 4 shots. How can I explain, ah:




People are dying... but more people than expected. As you look at the figures, it also includes children...
They're now saying that's never what they were for, but of course they initially hoped they would "cure" it. Vaccines are trial & error, black-box, hack & see type product. Just another other form of empirical science.
Just like viagra. wasnt what it was for.

What's wrong with 2G? If I remember the only scandal around there was around microwaves cooking your balls, but that was a long time ago and turned out to be nonsense anyway.
On a more serious note, it does have an effect: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7727890/



Lions and Gorilla's in Rotterdam Zoo got infected with Corona by humans. (Link is in Dutch)
So pets like cats get infected too...
In the USA they started early, and one zoo decimated their giraffes...
 

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I guess by information you mean opinions. Like people choose the medical mumbo jumbo that supports their unwillingness to vaccinate.
No. I meant that when you are confronted by stats and do not know whether they are true then it is better to just acknowledge ignorance than it is to blindly assume that they are true.

So your problem is you gravitate to theories. I suggest looking at the basic data and drawing you're own conclusions. I think the death figures do hold meaning.
I have no problem at all. Many of my theories have become proven facts and are serving me well. In fact, recently the gas price in the Netherlands got 8 times higher. But thanks to my theories we will be having a warm and cheap winter regardless.

The people with the problem are those who gravitate toward government propaganda. They will always be caught unprepared.

Besides, I look at stats all the time. Some time ago I linked official stats proving that the measures failed, and many times I have pointed out misleading tricks such as making "fully vaccinated" refering only to people who have been fully vaccinated for 2 weeks or longer (thus likely including many deaths caused by being fully vaccinated as "death of someone who is not fully vaccinated"). Even on other issues I use official stats, such as when I proved that NASA lies by posting their temperature data from 1999 next to their temperature data from decades later. The difference is not that you use official stats and I do not, the difference is that I hold official stats to extreme scrutiny while you seem to just take them on face value.
 

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Just like viagra. wasnt what it was for.
Exactly. viagra doesn't work
No. I meant that when you are confronted by stats and do not know whether they are true then it is better to just acknowledge ignorance than it is to blindly assume that they are true.


I have no problem at all. Many of my theories have become proven facts and are serving me well. In fact, recently the gas price in the Netherlands got 8 times higher. But thanks to my theories we will be having a warm and cheap winter regardless.

The people with the problem are those who gravitate toward government propaganda. They will always be caught unprepared.

Besides, I look at stats all the time. Some time ago I linked official stats proving that the measures failed, and many times I have pointed out misleading tricks such as making "fully vaccinated" refering only to people who have been fully vaccinated for 2 weeks or longer (thus likely including many deaths caused by being fully vaccinated as "death of someone who is not fully vaccinated"). Even on other issues I use official stats, such as when I proved that NASA lies by posting their temperature data from 1999 next to their temperature data from decades later. The difference is not that you use official stats and I do not, the difference is that I hold official stats to extreme scrutiny while you seem to just take them on face value.
ok. I'm about to conclude that you can't read.
 

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But thanks to my theories we will be having a warm and cheap winter regardless.
I am all ears. Please explain. Because by my accounts Europe is going into a cold winter. (in the 11 year cycle, we are still in the solar minimum).

Maybe it does have an effect, but in practical terms we've had the introduction of ubiquitous WiFi and ever more powerful phone signals, yet our schools are still full of kids. I'm not worried.
Yeah, fish in contaminated water also thrives. Take these two contradicting websites:

If I take out one kidney, I would also thrive... the thing is... the BEST sperm is selected by the egg (some study found out it's not the first, but the one selected by the egg), but the "best" now is worse than, say, 21 years ago.
Here's an idea: Maybe we are getting more poor (as poor people have more children)? Inflation and those things... some manipulated (natural gas price - Russia sells less at a higher price, thanks USA for blocking the deal! Not..) Others More Natural (We temporarily lost 10% of our world grain and also some of our canola because of a flood in Canada - imagine what that will do to prices of bread over the next few months considering export quotas from Russia India and maybe Argentina)

A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine.”
 

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I am all ears. Please explain. Because by my accounts Europe is going into a cold winter. (in the 11 year cycle, we are still in the solar minimum).
I meant "we" as in "me and my family". We will have a warm winter because we prepared for having to heat our home without the normal gas supply. And we did that because those theories i.e. facts which I gravitate towards indicated that we ought to. Thus I made the point that gravitating towards those facts is not a problem but actually a solution.
 

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What's wrong with 2G? If I remember the only scandal around there was around microwaves cooking your balls, but that was a long time ago and turned out to be nonsense anyway.

Well Impfung and Empfang it's written almost the same... So... would that be 2G: Genesen oder Geempfangt ? (nein, I checked and its empfangen, sounds more German, but breaks the joke :( )
Btw, what's wrong with German, they use the same word for mobile phone reception and becoming pregnant ?
 

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Pyra is 4 G (Genesen, Geimpf, Getestet, Gameboyemulator) you could translate 3G whit testet, vaccinatet, got the virus but its now healty again i dont know what its the translation for genesen..

Its now 3G at work in Germany, so you need at least a negative Test, and they want to make 3G in puplic transport, which might not be the best solution as some in the rural parts of the Country need a puplic transport to reach a Testcenter..

Vaccination might be a solution then but whe have the Anti Vaxers and even if you would get a Syringe now, it would take 6 weeks to be fully vaccinatet whit the second shot and the 2 weeks waiting time from then..

Some are now taking a paperwork from the doctor to stay at home...
 

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Pyra is 4 G (Genesen, Geimpf, Getestet, Gameboyemulator)

:D:D:D:D Großartig !

you could translate 3G whit testet, vaccinatet, got the virus but its now healty again i dont know what its the translation for genesen..
I think they say "recovered" in English. And they wish a prompt recovery. So 3G = tested, vaccinated or recovered.

Its now 3G at work in Germany, so you need at least a negative Test, and they want to make 3G in puplic transport, which might not be the best solution as some in the rural parts of the Country need a puplic transport to reach a Testcenter..

Vaccination might be a solution then but whe have the Anti Vaxers and even if you would get a Syringe now, it would take 6 weeks to be fully vaccinatet whit the second shot and the 2 weeks waiting time from then..

Some are now taking a paperwork from the doctor to stay at home...
Requiring vaccination is a false sense of security.
If some activity requires vaccination then it's better just not to do the activity. And public transport is a public service, it shouldn't depend on health choices or need access to health information.
Even with 3G people will get infected in public transport anyway.
And nobody knows for how long each vaccine works for each person anyway.
I wish they just payed for vaccines for those wanting them in Africa, etc.
 

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Ok, the Pyra is 5G then (Great)..
It may be quite divicult to check the 3G on the Passengers: you cant even check if everyone even bought a Ticket ^^, So im happy i never had to use my Bus Driving Licence for a Job, Beeceeper Supplys are still 0G ..
 
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