COVID-19 / Coronavirus Pandemic

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

It's not the same side. At least, I can not lick my outer elbow, nor sneeze on it, and greeting with your inner elbow looks weird.

That is a moot point. Your inner elbow and outer elbow are close together, and there definitely is no guarantee that none of the virus made it to someone's outer elbow after he has sneezed into his inner elbow. Even a drop too tiny to notice could host thousands of covid-19 viruses, with every single one of them being powerful enough to send you to the hospital faster than Teleport does in Pokémon games. If you think that you can keep your outer elbow 100% desinfected while you breed viruses in your inner elbow of the same arm then you might just be a super-spreader.

 

[FBnil]

That is a moot point. Your inner elbow and outer elbow are close together, and there definitely is no guarantee that none of the virus made it to someone's outer elbow after he has sneezed into his inner elbow. Even a drop too tiny to notice could host thousands of covid-19 viruses, with every single one of them being powerful enough to send you to the hospital faster than Teleport does in Pokémon games. If you think that you can keep your outer elbow 100% desinfected while you breed viruses in your inner elbow of the same arm then you might just be a super-spreader.

Ok, then what about this compromise: Sneeze into your left elbow. Greet with your right elbow.

Permit me to shake hands with yours. My right hand, with which I wipe myself.
Oh! What a coincidence, I also wipe with my right hand.
*fervorous handshake* *grins and nervous laughter*

 

[levi]

Hmm... might be so. But the facts is that the labs are there and they were handling dangerous substances. As said by Victoria Nuland. I mean, even the WHO already has commented to destroy the samples (also without disclosing what it actually was)
Also this:
And there was an interview with Tulsi Gabbard as well somewhere on the web corroborating it was nasty stuff.

But if Russia has biolabs in Mexico or Cuba.... oh! the screaming would start. So inconsistent.

Victoria Nuland said there were biological research materials. She didn't say they were dangerous, they may be but I couldn't say. And your second post just says we'll keep the secret stuff secret. If you think that actually supports your assertion that ukraine was developing nerve agents then I guess you have a problem reading.

 

[pyrat]

greeting with your inner elbow looks weird.

It depends on what you're dancing ...

 

[matzesu]

Ok, so this is the last week in Germany where Mask are Mandatory..

I think i will keep this thing at reach, for situations where im too near to others, and where the distance isnt possible (like on the Super Market Counter or something)..

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

I threw my mask away when the mandate got lifted a few months ago but this time I might hold on to my mask just so that I do not have to buy a new one if the mandate comes back again. Though with WW Ⅲ coming, maybe the mandate will not come back. There is no need for a pandemic anymore if a world war is reforming society instead. Maybe this will be the moment where covid-19 finally gets dropped from the news, thus ending the pandemic. Either way, it looks like we are still not going back to normal anytime soon.

 

[matzesu]

Whe Need the Hazard Suid from Half Live if this will become a 3th WW,

FFP3 only could keep away the Nuclear Dust when you wander through the post apocalyptic wastelands..

I need this FFP2 at least to prevent my Pyra from rattle against the Swiss Army Knive..

 

[netcat]

it looks like we are still not going back to normal anytime soon.

Peace and prosperity are abnormal. Fearing for your life on a regular basis is what people do. The west had an amazing run from 1945 to now basically.

But soon it will be summer, season of wildfires, tsunami's, volcanos, ash clouds, floods, and I predict locust. We'll forget about Ukraine at which point Russia will have won.

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Ok, so this is the last week in Germany where Mask are Mandatory..

I think i will keep this thing at reach, for situations where im too near to others, and where the distance isnt possible (like on the Super Market Counter or something)..

Don't forget to keep getting boosted. Or you will die instantly.

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[JDTAY]

Move over, deltacron. We now have a weird combo of BA.1 and BA.2.

Previously unknown COVID-19 variant discovered in Israel

The variant is thought to be a combination of the Omicron BA.1 and BA.2 subvariants, the Health Ministry reported on Wednesday morning.

m.jpost.com

 

[JDTAY]

That cluster of counties with high levels of COVID-19 I pointed out two weeks ago has shrunk, but it’s still there, mostly in eastern Kentucky now. Just as long as it keeps shrinking, I’ll be fine. I don’t live that far from eastern Kentucky, but there is a huge mountain range between it and me.

 

[JDTAY]

North Carolina is moving from weekday COVID-19 updates to weekly updates, starting Wednesday. I’m sure this is the perfect time to take our eyes off of COVID. Not like BA.2 is coming for us, or anything like that…

 

[pyrat]

Spain is abandoning testing, and quarantine for asymptomatic and mild COVID patients next week. They had abandoned quarantine for contacts long ago. They'll keep it for old people, immunoweak people, pregnant, health care workers and extrem cases, but forget it for the general population. So little sense watching stats there anymore. I guess the slope down was flattering, so they decided to stop getting data before it goes up, so that it doesn't show. They say they will monitor it like for the flu.

 

[FBnil]

I guess the slope down was flattering

Yes! The Two Weeks(tm) to flatten the curve is over!?! (or is it on hiatus until september, when we begin again)

 

[matzesu]

My Federal State (Saarland) got still Masks Mandatory until 4th of April, so dont worry, i want dy the next few weeks ^^

After that i will keep them for "Close Combat", maybe not for the Super Market Floor where others are far away, but for the Counter..

Also on our Shop: Not the whole time, but when its gets to "Close Combat", its no big issue put the Mask on...

 

[FBnil]

Is this really Australian MainStreamMedia?

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Hey, Electrocardiograms are required before you do sports... m'kay...

The Athletes Aren't Ok

This isn't normal

etana.substack.com

 

[netcat]

Australia has had negative excess deaths for a very long time now, longer than most countries. Of course they coincide with very strict restrictions so this suggests excessive restrictions. Also note that Australia delays or suppresses excess death figures. Why? The Australian government wants to restrict it's people for some reason. The restrictions clearly do not benefit Australians. => The Australian government does not work for the Australian people.

 

[levi]

Um, that graph shows negative excess deaths for most months, I would assume meaning less people died than the average. It only shows positive figures for May and June 2021, and presumably for some period prior to June 2020, but the graph doesn't go that far back so I can't say for how long. Australia May and June are more comparable to November and December in the northern hemisphere, it's the way into winter, although Australian winters aren't really comparable to European or North American winters.

 

[pyrat]

The restrictions clearly do not benefit Australians.

Negative excess deaths benefit Australians, it means fewer Australians die. Living instead of dying is a benefit.
People are even allowed to kill in self defense to avoid death. Why shouldn't governments be allowed to restrict freedoms if they achieve more people surviving ?
Closing restaurants is milder than killing enemies. Yet killing enemies is considered reasonable to avoid enemies killing you or your neighbours. It is not considered reasonable when the danger the enemies pose is just hypothetical.
Closing restaurants usually won't save lifes, and then it is not justified, but in the case of COVID-19 it did.

You are a little like damned if you do damned if you don't.
If there were positive excess deaths you'd say the measures were ineffective and abusive. If the measures work and excess deaths are negative, you say the measures weren't needed and were abusive.
If you can only be happy when the average deaths stay flat you'll likely to be deceived no matter what policy in place.

To assess the Australian policy we'd need much more data. Was people dying of COVID or of forest fires ? Does the correlation hold when looking at subplaces or subtimes?
Do we have the lists of measures and time in force and does it bear a relation to excess deaths ? What happend in all those parallel universes where there wasn't COVID or there weren't restrictions ?
Is my crystal ball pink or black ?

 

[levi]

It's also true that mask wearing mandates and prohibitions in mass socialisation have also stopped the spread of Flu and other infectious agents that kill. Actions needed to be taken to limit the spread of covid-19, but that's also affected other diseases that kill. That's one explanation for the negative death correlation.

 

[netcat]

Negative excess deaths benefit Australians

Not really. The most important thing is individuals having a choice. Freedom....yes. Only under extreme circumstances, such as the panic at the beginning of pandemic (when we thought we could eradicate covid by lockdown) is it acceptable to sacrifice so much freedom and dignity. Almost sounds like you want to cede more control to governments.

My reasoning is basic. In a unfettered pandemic excess deaths are positive. If excess deaths are negative it's due to an over reaction. Of course lockdown means fewer deaths across the board but this is irrelevant. Individual freedom is too precious.