A Spectrum of Pyra Renders


safety orange

Oooohh... :D

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"Interesting - I wonder if he had the time to browse through this 10 page thread. Likely he had more pressing things to take care of..." Hello there guys. I have done this from the time i saw the forum.There are some colors that can be done and some that cannot be done from my side.Sorry for the delay answering.There were lot of things happening.Everything is fine now .Allready fixinng some more issues that the molds having for production.I am talking with ED for that .Next week i will manage to send more samples and videos with the changes to ED and as soon everything is fine ED will inform you.About the colors there a lot of nice ideas here ,Some can be done cause we corporate with the company that can create the color that we want and it needs to be specilazied for the Matterial we are using to make the Pyra.Some colors i had seen here though are Special paint that cannot be done from the Injection machines.It is good to continue of what you people are doin here with your ideas about the colors and if there are a lot more will be nice if there can be a Poll .That way i can go with this Data to the companie that i am corporate with about the colors and see what can be done.First time for me to see this magic goin on with the comunity helping completing a project and i loved it to the Bone.I will try to be more active here .

Sounds good so far. :) Out of curiosity, what is the most durable/rugged and sturdy material you can offer for the Pyra case (independent of colour)?

Oooohh... :D
...noooooo! :D
 
Sounds good so far. :) Out of curiosity, what is the most durable/rugged and sturdy material you can offer for the Pyra case (independent of colour)?
The best one is a blended matterial (ABS + Polycarbonate),But Polycarbonate Alone will do the job too.Both of them though needs to have V0 inside for the item not get burned.Plastics though are evolving all the time.we might have something new in later years but all the Big Companies like Resinex,Bisterfield and others they have Cartificates for this Matterials to be the best ones for this kind of job
 
Yeah, I remember. ED spoke alot about Polycarbonate in the past. Not sure if this still is a thing for Pyra but it would be great. We also had a discussion about carbon fibre enhanced plastic materials but not sure if this is even affordable. Modern plastic materials are indeed an interesting field. During my time at the german army, the G36 rifle was introduced and it is basicly an Assault Rifle with alot of plastic material for the outer parts. No clue what exaclty they used but it must have been some extremely tough stuff. ^^"
 
Probably ABS I'd have thought for a gun. ABS deformed plastically further than polycarbonate, I assume. Polycarbonate goes quite a long way before it fails, but when it fails it tends to shatter. Last time I checked, they used ABS in riot shields for its handling characteristics. Maybe they're using blended ABS+poly these days though, I'm probably out of touch with that stuff.

As far as I've been paying attention, they're still using polycarbonate for all of the current Pyra case tests, including the ones with inclusions. I can imagine using a blend of materials might make getting just the right colour a little more tricky.
 
Yeah, I remember. ED spoke alot about Polycarbonate in the past. Not sure if this still is a thing for Pyra but it would be great. We also had a discussion about carbon fibre enhanced plastic materials but not sure if this is even affordable. Modern plastic materials are indeed an interesting field. During my time at the german army, the G36 rifle was introduced and it is basicly an Assault Rifle with alot of plastic material for the outer parts. No clue what exaclty they used but it must have been some extremely tough stuff. ^^"
I have carbon fiber but is from a customer that found it and was a special order for a unique job.The price was 58 euros per kilo XD and minimum order was 2600 kilos . Anyway though Carbon fiber aint good for pyra , couple of technical reasons when it has to do with the Density and injection.About "G36 Assault Rifle with alot of plastic material for the outer parts" i am not the special here on that subject but i guess was Acetal :p
 
Bundeswehr? Bakelite probably.
No, but everything else they use, probably. xD

Polycarbonate goes quite a long way before it fails, but when it fails it tends to shatter.
I wonder what they used for the old Pandora case (I have a 1. Batch one). It's an extremly poor plastic, brittle and for sure nothing a case should be made out of it.

The price was 58 euros per kilo XD and minimum order was 2600 kilos
UFF! o_O
Polycarbonate is totaly fine then! :oops:
...in Gunmetal Grey... ;)
 
Probably ABS I'd have thought for a gun. ABS deformed plastically further than polycarbonate, I assume. Polycarbonate goes quite a long way before it fails, but when it fails it tends to shatter. Last time I checked, they used ABS in riot shields for its handling characteristics. Maybe they're using blended ABS+poly these days though, I'm probably out of touch with that stuff.

As far as I've been paying attention, they're still using polycarbonate for all of the current Pyra case tests, including the ones with inclusions. I can imagine using a blend of materials might make getting just the right colour a little more tricky.

ABS+PC is been used on most Weapons and mobile devices.There are a lot of plastics but each plastic is specialized for the item you want to create cause each plastic has deferend characteristics.Also there are deferend Sors in the Same matterial that you can buy,For example PC with 21 Sor, PC with 7 Sor Etc... There is also a big part that plays role buying matterials from Deferend companies .In my expiriance i had test lots of times Having the Same matterial (PA) with the same characteristics but been from deferend companies and having deferend production .So when it has to do with the Plastic you need to have the correct companies to work with giving you the correct matterial so you can create a nice product without having problems in the production.
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No, but everything else they use, probably. xD


UFF! o_O
Polycarbonate is totaly fine then! :oops:

...in Gunmetal Grey... ;)
I still have some left and ofcorse i will do some tests after i complete my first production .When that happens i will send those samples to ED so he can choose were to send Them ;) for free
 
thanks @azouls for bringing this deep knowledge about plastics and moulding to our little boards!
together we will make the pyra look awesome! :cool::p&|a:
 
continue of what you people are doin here with your ideas about the colors and if there are a lot more will be nice if there can be a Poll .

A search for "color" in the forums will pull up at least two polls and a dozen threads on colour ideas.

I think it's easy to get carried away, but thinking about back to when I first looked at the Pyra a few years ago, I mostly referred to the official Pyra page with the dark red. And that colour, or something like it, is likely to be most prominent in the minds of many people when ordering, other than black (easy to imagine) or transparent (used for all prototyping).

I do feel that the dark red is both stylish and uniquely evocative of the Pyra and would push for that as a strong contender.
 
I still have some left and ofcorse i will do some tests after i complete my first production .When that happens i will send those samples to ED so he can choose were to send Them ;) for free
Nice. Then ED can run a car over it and look how it turns out. :D

thanks @azouls for bringing this deep knowledge about plastics and moulding to our little boards!
together we will make the pyra look awesome! :cool::p&|a:
During the years in this forum, we learned alot about injection molding and plastic materials. A little bit longer and we can distinguish every type of plastic just by it's taste! xD
 
Nice. Then ED can run a car over it and look how it turns out. :D


During the years in this forum, we learned alot about injection molding and plastic materials. A little bit longer and we can distinguish every type of plastic just by it's taste! xD
i am working 18 years in plastic industrie with couple of Old people who are in this buisness that had transfering me all the knowledge they had in plastic and Still learning new staff everyday XD . About that " Nice. Then ED can run a car over it and look how it turns out. " The job that i have done with carbon fiber When we gived the item for streanth check it was holding 800 killos.Then we create a recipe and we Mixed the CarbonFiber with 2 more matterials and the results from that was 1.300 killos Streanth check. So it will be a nice experiance to see that car test too .
 
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I don't know what ED or any of you guys drive, but the last couple of gens of BMW 3 series cars and VW Golfs were a little more heavy that that. It does depend on tyre pressure also though, if you let the tyres down it could never reach that peak weight as part of the flat-ish tyre could still be resting on the ground, versus if you pump up the tyres if would acts as a wave of weight travelling from one side to the other. Thinking it through though, assuming the suspension accommodates the travel to get over the plastic moulding, it should only be at most 1/4 weight in a car test. You'd have to balance the car on the case somehow (maybe on the left headlight) to get the full weight transfer to the moulding.
 
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