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@AnimatedFreak If there shall be a safe colour, that would be safety orange, wouldn't it?
"Interesting - I wonder if he had the time to browse through this 10 page thread. Likely he had more pressing things to take care of..." Hello there guys. I have done this from the time i saw the forum.There are some colors that can be done and some that cannot be done from my side.Sorry for the delay answering.There were lot of things happening.Everything is fine now .Allready fixinng some more issues that the molds having for production.I am talking with ED for that .Next week i will manage to send more samples and videos with the changes to ED and as soon everything is fine ED will inform you.About the colors there a lot of nice ideas here ,Some can be done cause we corporate with the company that can create the color that we want and it needs to be specilazied for the Matterial we are using to make the Pyra.Some colors i had seen here though are Special paint that cannot be done from the Injection machines.It is good to continue of what you people are doin here with your ideas about the colors and if there are a lot more will be nice if there can be a Poll .That way i can go with this Data to the companie that i am corporate with about the colors and see what can be done.First time for me to see this magic goin on with the comunity helping completing a project and i loved it to the Bone.I will try to be more active here .
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The best one is a blended matterial (ABS + Polycarbonate),But Polycarbonate Alone will do the job too.Both of them though needs to have V0 inside for the item not get burned.Plastics though are evolving all the time.we might have something new in later years but all the Big Companies like Resinex,Bisterfield and others they have Cartificates for this Matterials to be the best ones for this kind of jobSounds good so far. Out of curiosity, what is the most durable/rugged and sturdy material you can offer for the Pyra case (independent of colour)?
Bundeswehr? Bakelite probably.No clue what exaclty they used but it must have been some extremely tough stuff. ^^
Ooooooooh, I like!
I have carbon fiber but is from a customer that found it and was a special order for a unique job.The price was 58 euros per kilo XD and minimum order was 2600 kilos . Anyway though Carbon fiber aint good for pyra , couple of technical reasons when it has to do with the Density and injection.About "G36 Assault Rifle with alot of plastic material for the outer parts" i am not the special here on that subject but i guess was AcetalYeah, I remember. ED spoke alot about Polycarbonate in the past. Not sure if this still is a thing for Pyra but it would be great. We also had a discussion about carbon fibre enhanced plastic materials but not sure if this is even affordable. Modern plastic materials are indeed an interesting field. During my time at the german army, the G36 rifle was introduced and it is basicly an Assault Rifle with alot of plastic material for the outer parts. No clue what exaclty they used but it must have been some extremely tough stuff. ^^"
No, but everything else they use, probably.Bundeswehr? Bakelite probably.
I wonder what they used for the old Pandora case (I have a 1. Batch one). It's an extremly poor plastic, brittle and for sure nothing a case should be made out of it.Polycarbonate goes quite a long way before it fails, but when it fails it tends to shatter.
UFF!The price was 58 euros per kilo XD and minimum order was 2600 kilos
Probably ABS I'd have thought for a gun. ABS deformed plastically further than polycarbonate, I assume. Polycarbonate goes quite a long way before it fails, but when it fails it tends to shatter. Last time I checked, they used ABS in riot shields for its handling characteristics. Maybe they're using blended ABS+poly these days though, I'm probably out of touch with that stuff.
As far as I've been paying attention, they're still using polycarbonate for all of the current Pyra case tests, including the ones with inclusions. I can imagine using a blend of materials might make getting just the right colour a little more tricky.
I still have some left and ofcorse i will do some tests after i complete my first production .When that happens i will send those samples to ED so he can choose were to send Them for freeNo, but everything else they use, probably.
UFF!
Polycarbonate is totaly fine then!
...in Gunmetal Grey...
continue of what you people are doin here with your ideas about the colors and if there are a lot more will be nice if there can be a Poll .
About "G36 Assault Rifle with alot of plastic material for the outer parts" i am not the special here on that subject but i guess was Acetal
Nice. Then ED can run a car over it and look how it turns out.I still have some left and ofcorse i will do some tests after i complete my first production .When that happens i will send those samples to ED so he can choose were to send Them for free
During the years in this forum, we learned alot about injection molding and plastic materials. A little bit longer and we can distinguish every type of plastic just by it's taste!thanks @azouls for bringing this deep knowledge about plastics and moulding to our little boards!
together we will make the pyra look awesome!
i am working 18 years in plastic industrie with couple of Old people who are in this buisness that had transfering me all the knowledge they had in plastic and Still learning new staff everyday XD . About that " Nice. Then ED can run a car over it and look how it turns out. " The job that i have done with carbon fiber When we gived the item for streanth check it was holding 800 killos.Then we create a recipe and we Mixed the CarbonFiber with 2 more matterials and the results from that was 1.300 killos Streanth check. So it will be a nice experiance to see that car test too .Nice. Then ED can run a car over it and look how it turns out.
During the years in this forum, we learned alot about injection molding and plastic materials. A little bit longer and we can distinguish every type of plastic just by it's taste!
I don't know what ED or any of you guys drive, but the last could of gens of BMW 3 series cars and VW Golfs were a little more heavy that that.