World News Thread (Politics,whatever)

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  1. levi

    levi Still fresh, damnit!

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    Finally got a chance to listen to that. It's some of the finest FUD I've heard for a while. The key word he missed out there to begin with at least is 'non-ionizing'. I'm not aware of any well founded reports that found a positive cancer risk for that stuff, and when I check wikipedia as a kind of meta research it says
    That means no cancer, no DNA replication issues. I guess the report he's referring to that proposed that just maybe there were cancerous affects from non-ionising radiation is the IARC report.
    While the 5G spec does talk about pushing out radio waves at some dozens of GHz, ionization only really starts to occur at about 700 THz at the very lowest.

    In the mean time, plenty of us work in offices with cell towers on top of them. If you're scared of cell frequencies, I need to tell you about a burning ball of flame that appears in the sky approximately every 24 hours that can definitely burn you and even cause cancer.

    Edit: Whoops, link fail. Now fixed (I hope)!
     
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  2. Xcl4m4t10n

    Xcl4m4t10n Very Active Member

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    Wow, france is the first of the world at something...
     
  3. klapse

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    I'm aware of the issues you raise. The cancer link is statistical. There appears to be a non-ionizing mechanism for cancer and other effects.
    https://ehtrust.org/scientists-and-doctors-demand-moratorium-on-5g-warning-of-health-effects/
    http://www.5gappeal.eu/
    https://www.iarc.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/pr208_E.pdf
    https://monographs.iarc.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/mono102.pdf
     
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  4. ClockworkCoder

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    Hmm... apparently it was recently made illegal to mod consoles in Japan - punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a 4/5 million yen fine.

    https://gamerant.com/japan-console-game-mod-illegal/

    I'm not sure what the implications are worldwide, or how seriously it's going to be enforced over there, but it sounds like a rather dangerous precedent...
     
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  5. levi

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    I wonder how that will butt up against the movement to make it mandatory for companies to enable us to repair our electronics. That gained traction a couple of years ago although reportedly any actual legislation has thus far been blocked by Apple. I thought there was also some movement from within the EU although I can't find that on wikipedia now I look.
     
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    https://repair.org/ was highlighting some recent wins for the right-to-repair, though mostly focused in the States.
     
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    I predict that it will all turn around in a couple of decades, when we have a large number of politicians (and voters) who grew up with the blissfully free exchange of information the the internet provides - instead of the current lot, who see it as "other", and therefore a threat.
     
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  11. levi

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    Also, the fact that most times I look for a new record I've heard on the radio on youtube, it's been posted by the label themselves.
     

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