World News Thread (Politics,whatever)

Discussion in 'Offtopic Discussions' started by Wally, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. Klumpen

    Klumpen Run away! Run away!

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    A leader of the AfD just left the party because he said, that the radical right wingers have really completely won the battle against the moderate forces inside the party.
    He continues his political doings independently.
    It took him a bit longer than others to recognize that, I thought the last moderates in that party left over a year ago.

    Radical fringe groups from left and right taking over everywhere in Europe and elsewhere make me sad.
     
  2. Binky

    Binky The Hogfather's Steed Staff Member

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    Diminishing power source, yes. You can only use the KE of spinning generators to cover small imbalances of power over short periods.

    Feeding steam into the turbine tends to make it speed up. Drawing electric power from the generator makes it slow down.

    If, and only if the steam input and electrical output match, will the generators/turbines stay at a constant speed

    If I might illustrate with an entirely realistic and to-scale graph...

    teatime.png
    (Note that the red and green lines should really start in the same place, but I've shifted them for 'clarity')
    If you add the green and cyan lines, you should get the same as the red line, due to conservation of energy.
     
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  3. klapse

    klapse Central Scrutinizer

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    Engineering is so much nicer to read than politics.
     
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  4. FBnil

    FBnil Waterfox > firefox

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    Aaah... you know what is nicer? A romantic walk in Paris by night... don't you agree it's the ideal place to fall in love?




    While dancing with a Pyra as an music device with splitter:


    It brings a tear to my eye... but it could be the teargas... cough... need to... get... Pyra before...



    Also, just so you know, they aren't just protesting about gas price.
    Our government basically makes up a new tax every week.
    Like, they rised the gas price, then want us to buy electric car, and is now planning to rise the price of electricity by 40%.
    They're also planning taxes on mobile phones plans. On mobile phones and anything with a screen (Pyra!) to pay for the public television, despite it being insanely bad.
    On hyperlinks too.
    They're also planning a tax on meat.
    A tax for suburban drivers to pay for public transportations.
    A tax for every package delivered at home (pay or no Pyra!).
    A rise of the tax on alcohol. A tax on salt. And all of that in the past 6 months.
    While rich people and big companies, whose benefits have never been higher, are less and less taxed.

    I was in France in July, just as they introduced a speeding law. Something like maximum speed being 80, lowered from 90.
    Same week they introduced a private corporation to issue tickets. It was so obvious that some law-maker was bribed to lower the speed limit so this new corporation could bunk a lot of drivers when they were going the usual 90 km/h

    Don't forget a tax to enter in a city with your vehicle... I mean in big cities likes Marseilles and Paris they plan to make truck drivers (yeah even delivery ones) pay 20 - 30 € just to enter in the city...

    Don't forget the ministry got a raise on their salary (paid by taxes)

    The plans for 2020? If you cough... you get taxed.
    Shutdown or booted a Pyra? That's right, you get taxed (tax on electronics and iot's).
    Spending time under the sun? Robbing sunlight (for example, with solar panels) That's right... you get taxed.
    Took a big shit? That's right... you get taxed extra for that (not kiddin' sewer taxes).
    Running to the bus and breathing extra oxigen? Taxed again! (and might get you arrested if you look suspicious)
    Then, you'll get taxes on taxes.... French love that! See how happy they are on that picture?


    OTOH: Lot's of idiots looting and destroying things instead of peacefully protesting...
     
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  5. klapse

    klapse Central Scrutinizer

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    I'm amazed anyone is stupid enough to work in europe.
     
  6. FBnil

    FBnil Waterfox > firefox

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    But it is incomplete... you forget that you get charged and taxed for usage of electricity... 100,000 households charged with 1Kwh?

    What's wrong with working in Europe? Getting taxed half of your earnings before you get it in your hand, then get taxed for each product you buy?

    Listen to the lyrics of this song, it's an oldy, but somehow futuristic:
     
  7. klapse

    klapse Central Scrutinizer

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    Yes, with the total tax take on the earning->getting_something_for_it at ~60% you are working past midyear just for the State. You are > 50% a slave.
     
  8. FBnil

    FBnil Waterfox > firefox

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    The sooner you realize we are kept as slaves (just like cattle, but with just a bit more roaming space, mandatory vaksinasions), get born into slavery (as collateral, with every person in the country, the country can use that as collateral to get a loan that new citizen will have to pay back) etc... the better. Now... go to sleep, you need to work tomorrow! (sfx of a whip)

    I don't mind the taxing... I DO mind the reckless spending.
     
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  9. matzesu

    matzesu Advanced Member

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    I can remember a Time, when fuel was quite cheap in french, and every time when whe went to french for beeceeping purposes or vacations, whe refueled our car, and i can also remember to refueld my own car..,
    the french "boarder" isnt far away from me, about 20 minutes driving....
    Lets hope they dont want to increase the taxes of my meadow land in Wangenbourg, at the moment, the taxes are that low, that they ditnt want to take them from me, as the costs would be more that the taxes for my Land..

    Hey im owning a little bit of french :) , but my english is still better than my french..
     
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  10. ElPoco

    ElPoco Very Active Member

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    I got one of the best education in the world for a mere fraction of the cost, including the plane tickets for a semester of study in Hong-Kong. My wife got out of deep medical problems without having to pay diagnosis and treatment costs she probably couldn't have afforded... Maybe I still paid more in taxes than I received, but I'm glad to pay for others who don't have the same means that I have

    The problem isn't that we, the "average" people pay too much taxes. The problem is that the rich and companies don't pay theirs.
     
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  11. matzesu

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    If nobody work or life in Europe, than i assume its quite boring at this place, so there have to live some peaple hear,
    Europe whitout Peaple ditnt make much sense..
    Also there a lot of Diverence in Europe, as its more like a Company of Diverent Countrys, like French, Germany, Austria, Italien, Spain, Luxembourg, Netherlands etc

    If Europe where one big country, mybe some things where more easy..
     
  12. FBnil

    FBnil Waterfox > firefox

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    To put stuff into perspective:

    Fuel price in Serbia 1.37EUR pet liter, average monthly salary 380EUR. (Not part of Europe)
    Fuel price in France 1.47EUR per liter, average monthly salary 2500EUR. (Part of Europe)

    But you don't see (ex)Yugoslavians rioting, do you?
     
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  13. klapse

    klapse Central Scrutinizer

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    French like to riot. It doesn't change much of anything but I think it's quaint and loveable.
     
  14. FBnil

    FBnil Waterfox > firefox

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    French, due to the French revolution, have the moral obligation to be more alert when the common man is being oppressed.
    The protests are peaceful, just watch the video.

    The problem now is that the French police is showing solidarity with the French demonstrators (although around 100 people have been shot by snipers up to yesterday).
    So the plan now is to roll in European forces, who are less attached to people from a foreign country.



    As for the taxation, the reason for the protests, see this graph:
    oecd2017.jpg

    Source: http://www.oecd.org/tax/tax-policy/revenue-statistics-2522770x.htm

    France is pretty much on top, right?
     
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  15. levi

    levi Still fresh, damnit!

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    The problem for the protesters, as had been covered on the MSM here, is that they're unlikely to be able to agree on what needs to be done, being made up pretty much equally of right wing and left wing protesters. The left wingers are likely to agree with greater taxation, it just needs to be better focussed on those that have rather than those that have not, while the right wingers are just anti taxation in the main.
     
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  16. FBnil

    FBnil Waterfox > firefox

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    Meanwhile, my energy (electra and gas) goes up 20% and my earnings went down 10%.
     

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