The biggest computer/gaming mistake you have ever made.

[renegadechic]

well, i don't see this happening too soon for some companies, particularly nintendo.

Wasn't there a discussion recently that the very first game which prohibits you from creating more than one player/game AND even resetting/deleting your game progress was the new Resident Evil for the 3DS?

well dang! wont be buying that then!

 

[Exophase]

i think a relatively large share of gamers would just stop buying games if they were unable to resell them as soon as they finished it. considering just how many used copies of games end up in second hand stores, it must be a lot of people.

Used game stores give you a really small fraction of what they sell it for, which ends up being just a few dollars below whatever they're selling the thing new for.. There's enough incentive to sell games you have no interest in if you're going to the same place to buy games, but I don't think it's really anywhere near enough to curtail people from buying games entirely.


If killing the used game market could result in even a pretty minor average reduction in new game cost, like 10%, it'd easily be worth it for the end user.. maybe not for the used game retailers, but screw them (this long since stopped being a primary market for anyone anyway)

 

[CAZMIESTER]

i think a relatively large share of gamers would just stop buying games if they were unable to resell them as soon as they finished it. considering just how many used copies of games end up in second hand stores, it must be a lot of people.

Used game stores give you a really small fraction of what they sell it for, which ends up being just a few dollars below whatever they're selling the thing new for.. There's enough incentive to sell games you have no interest in if you're going to the same place to buy games, but I don't think it's really anywhere near enough to curtail people from buying games entirely.


If killing the used game market could result in even a pretty minor average reduction in new game cost, like 10%, it'd easily be worth it for the end user.. maybe not for the used game retailers, but screw them (this long since stopped being a primary market for anyone anyway)

Not exactly true hmv have a deal going if you trade in a game 1 week after release date you were getting £35 for a £40 game i done it with black ops medal of honor and uncharted 3 so maybe game and gamestation and independents are not so good value.

 

[kuru]

well, i don't see this happening too soon for some companies, particularly nintendo.

Wasn't there a discussion recently that the very first game which prohibits you from creating more than one player/game AND even resetting/deleting your game progress was the new Resident Evil for the 3DS?

well dang! wont be buying that then!

Yeah quite a shame. That game bundled at an attractive price would be a system-seller for me. Guess I'll save that one for emulation someday.

BTW we did quite a good job of derailing the thread there

 

[Exophase]

Not exactly true hmv have a deal going if you trade in a game 1 week after release date you were getting £35 for a £40 game i done it with black ops medal of honor and uncharted 3 so maybe game and gamestation and independents are not so good value.

That sounds more like a return policy than a traditional used game sale. If this is your strategy you're probably better off renting games. Barring used games will of course bar physical game rentals as well.


But most people want to play their games more than a week, unless they don't like them.. latter of which is what demos are for..

 

[renegadechic]

Not exactly true hmv have a deal going if you trade in a game 1 week after release date you were getting £35 for a £40 game i done it with black ops medal of honor and uncharted 3 so maybe game and gamestation and independents are not so good value.

That sounds more like a return policy than a traditional used game sale. If this is your strategy you're probably better off renting games. Barring used games will of course bar physical game rentals as well.


But most people want to play their games more than a week, unless they don't like them.. latter of which is what demos are for..

Actually no, this is a genuine second hand game involvement. Over the last few years HMV has offered a Re-Play section with traded in games available at a discounted compared to New Retail price. I don't know if the games manufacturers get a cut or anything but it is definitely not a returns policy, otherwise they would arrange for refurbishment and resale at full price.

 

[Prometheus]

well, i don't see this happening too soon for some companies, particularly nintendo.

Wasn't there a discussion recently that the very first game which prohibits you from creating more than one player/game AND even resetting/deleting your game progress was the new Resident Evil for the 3DS?

Two things worth noting, if I may;


1: The new Resident Evil for the 3DS does not have this - the earlier one, Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D, is the affected game. After the enormous backlash, Capcom pledged not to do this again.


2: As much as Capcom is in my bad books at the moment, it's unfair to say that this was the first game that did this, as it wasn't. The first game that did this on the 3DS was, to my knowledge, Sega's Super Monkey Ball 3D. It speaks volumes about the respective impacts of the franchises affected, that nobody noticed it with this one.

 

[kuru]

^Alright, thanks for putting my half knowledge right


The mercenaries game is the FPS, I'm not even interested in that one.

 

[Nintendo]

They won't be the last, unfortunately.

 

[erico]

Oh well, till this day, not any real shocks as I have seen you guys post (the ´rise of the robots´ case sure scares me).


I guess two could fall into this category, and at least one was successful, the first was when I was a kid with my coco II about 7 million yeas ago.


I made contact with this guy from Rio de Janeiro who claimed had a game I wanted (some gfx adveture IF).


After a few long distance calls, which bothered my parents as it was an expensive deed back then, I agreed to post him a couple of my rare games and in exchange he would post what I wanted back. People around advised me that guys from Rio de Janeiro are all crooks and I would get busted. Being a person who believes in humans no matter what (and my brother is from Rio de Janeiro too) I just sent my stuff, the guy never sent his back. Within all laughs from everyone, I had decided to investigate it further and in fact the guy had a store to sell them (all pirated of course, but that was not an issue some 30 years ago). He said he never received it and attempted a Jack Burton situation as of "the check is in the mail".


I later called him faking a costumer and asked if he had ´those games of mine´ in stock to sell, he did, and by the way he described the game, he actually had it. Sucker.


The other case was around 1994 when I forked about 3k dollars to get an amiga 4000 + the last commodore great monitor with built in speakers.


Couple days later after I got those (I was living in the US by that time), commodore went bankrupted and at that time the amiga died out of nothing.


I managed to fix it but a week later the monitor died too. Commodore would not replace it and if I´d send it to them I would loose the whole stuff.


So I went around for fixing tech houses and after visiting about 20 of then, all I heard was "the price to fix this is the same as a new one, in fact just to open the shielded case to check what is wrong is going to cost half of it be it I can fix or not" and a new one didn´t exist.


I packed everything and it seated there for about 6 months. Then I came back to brazil and forgot to justify my stuff at the consulate back in the US.


So when I got here, my amiga and monitor (yes I shipped both bricks) got here 2 months later and were at the customs crap.


There the guy said he would let me have it if I pay him another 3k dollars...


Being furiously enraged, I didn´t pay but sent a letter to the brazilian consulate back in the US requesting my list of rights to bring this in.


Another 6 months later I got a document and went there pick up my bricked amiga and monitor.


At least this story has a good ending, being in Sao Paulo, I took the monitor to highly specialized monitor tech company and those guys fixed it in a day for 25$, and where quite happy to mess with it. It is because of this computer that I am what I am and can do things gfx/movie wise nowadays.

 

[diligentcircle]

I suppose the biggest one I made was to get an original model Nintendo DS instead of the new (at the time) DS Lite. I just didn't like the way the DS Lite looks.

 

[bagmouse7]

The biggest mistake I ever made was when I let a friend of mine borrow my TurboExpress when I was in college. He took it to a Grateful Dead concert where it burned up inside of his van in the parking lot of the show (no I am not making this up!).


We were both dirt poor college students so I never got a replacement, but he did pay me back for it about 10 years later. It was a real shame because at the time the Turbo Express was very expensive and rare. I still miss playing R-Type on it!

 

[Nintendo]

Aww, TurboExpress was something that I was never able to afford as a kid.

 

[Exophase]

Actually no, this is a genuine second hand game involvement. Over the last few years HMV has offered a Re-Play section with traded in games available at a discounted compared to New Retail price. I don't know if the games manufacturers get a cut or anything but it is definitely not a returns policy, otherwise they would arrange for refurbishment and resale at full price.

You don't think I'm actually denying the existence of a used game market do you? I'm well aware that stores sell both new and used games. I'm referring to HIS example - the store letting you get a nearly full refund only within a week as a returns policy. Not that they don't buy used games, but they sure as hell don't give you 87.5% the original cost on something you bought a year ago. There's no way that'd be profitable.


And I'm really surprised that this retailer is willing to take back opened items for nearly full price. They're probably repackaging them and selling them as new and at new price. The slight cost reduction is probably a repackaging/restocking fee. I would hope they inspect the goods to make sure they're like-new quality. Optical media games are kind of a grey area for used sales because they don't deteriorate in the same way a lot of other goods do (especially say, cars.. but even game consoles can, I know I suffered by buying a used DS).. so it's difficult to say if the end buyer is getting cheated by being sold a slightly used game at new price.

 

[renegadechic]

Actually no, this is a genuine second hand game involvement. Over the last few years HMV has offered a Re-Play section with traded in games available at a discounted compared to New Retail price. I don't know if the games manufacturers get a cut or anything but it is definitely not a returns policy, otherwise they would arrange for refurbishment and resale at full price.

You don't think I'm actually denying the existence of a used game market do you? I'm well aware that stores sell both new and used games. I'm referring to HIS example - the store letting you get a nearly full refund only within a week as a returns policy. Not that they don't buy used games, but they sure as hell don't give you 87.5% the original cost on something you bought a year ago. There's no way that'd be profitable.


And I'm really surprised that this retailer is willing to take back opened items for nearly full price. They're probably repackaging them and selling them as new and at new price. The slight cost reduction is probably a repackaging/restocking fee. I would hope they inspect the goods to make sure they're like-new quality. Optical media games are kind of a grey area for used sales because they don't deteriorate in the same way a lot of other goods do (especially say, cars.. but even game consoles can, I know I suffered by buying a used DS).. so it's difficult to say if the end buyer is getting cheated by being sold a slightly used game at new price.

I was merely clarifying the situation with HMV in the UK since you weren't from here rather than accusing you of anything! They are one of the biggest if not the biggest CD, DVD, games, etc retailer in the UK, at least of ones that specialise in mostly new stock, so it does feel like a slightly unusual situation. You don't see them peddling second hand CDs or DVDs for example but I get the impression that reselling has become so fashionable for games now that it must have represented some serious competition for them to pick up on it. Games, at the moment at least, seem to hold their resale value for that much longer than other media too which is why I think they see the benefit in it. Still, it ends up overpriced for what is ultimately a second hand game. I would sooner hit up amazon or ebay to get a sweeter deal.

 

[GiraffeeDreams]

Brought sonic 4 ep 2 today, a very dubious purchase even for me and I have virtually all the sonic games...

 

[Nintendo]

There hasn't been a 10 out 10 Sonic game since Sonic Adventure.

 

[commander-beef]

Well, i bought in mid nineties a 'Mission Zircon' game for Atari 8bit on a floppy. Man that sells in shop assures me that this game is an excellent sequel to Zybex [and hundred times better].. after arriving home i just figure out that it was a nice tailored lie

. Actually it was crappiest game i ever played on Atari [including even "Lizard" game and "Tarkus]. So.. next day i go to this shop and said, "sorry man you sold me scratched disk [hehe ], and i want my money back, mutherf.. ". It works..


Mission Zircon

Zybex:

 

[GiraffeeDreams]

Sonic Generations was the best Sonic game since Adventure, got my DC set back up today and got back into SA2

 

[iprice]

I'm pretty sure Blizzard are regretting letting Diablo III into the wild without ensuring they had an infrastructure that could support it.