Planet Computers : Gemini - Psion Returns

[MrConfusion]

It's like you can't start a retro geek campaign without dodgy happening either by the campaign or others starting a fake campaign like with the Gemini.

Seems like :-(.

I noticed they added more earlybirds. That, combined with the other vagueness here, does warrant some feel for alarm... Their responses to comments on Linux support have been unconvincing to say the least and downright against historical evidence of, for example, the behaviour of MediaTek as a company. It doesn't seem like they are serious about long term support, if they cannot provide better answers right now.

But even ignoring the Linux support issue, they might be crossly underestimating the effort they are committing to. Offering more earlybirds at this stage simply does not seem logical, when they've stated themselves that the earlybird offer is about half the final price (probably below long term production costs, definitely below short term...). In the best case they are underestimating when the easy cash starts pouring in... in the worst... well...

At the very least this adding of earlybirds means their original calculations were off. If they are sitting on a pile of cash, great, but then why are they on Indiegogo at such an early stage to begin with when simply announcing this would have probably postponed several nerds' spending spree on a similar device for a few months.

Somehow that mindset reminds me terribly of another product in which practically anyone, everyone, their dog and mom were bound to be "In the first batch, yay!" - whether they hopped on board long after the first passengers or not. And that one also sold for half the price, less than production costs.

 

[Willburn]

Enough red flags for me...
I pulled my funding out yesterday.

Such a pity, this is a dream device for me.

 

[directive0]

The triangle of truth for geek crowdfunding seems to be

Fast
Cheap
Real

Pick any two.

 

[ClockworkCoder]

The triangle of truth for geek crowdfunding seems to be

Fast
Cheap
Real

Pick any two.

Fast & cheap sounds good to me

 

[Grench]

Fast & cheap sounds good to me

"Speed's just a question of money. How fast you wanna go?" -Mad Max

 

[directive0]

Fast & cheap sounds good to me

I like things I purchase to be real above all else

 

[ClockworkCoder]

I like things I purchase to be real above all else

Unless it's VR

By the way, I realised the idiocy of my response shortly after posting it. Need. Brain.

 

[ible]

impending campaign? virtual reality goggles help you experience things as never before! (they're just glasses with yellow tints, or something.)

 

[klapse]

I am very dissapoint. Risk too high. Cannot join crowdfund.

With trackpoint, and 2 micro-sd it would be poifekt.

But sexiness factor is above 2.3 gorillion. What do. Argh.

 

[vcoleiro1]

@klapse

I read somewhere that they were trying to get the keyboard to act as a touchpad, like with onther device which I forget. They were talking about whter the tech could be licensed from the other company or something.

 

[b_o_b]

What do. Argh.

That is an easy one

Don't pre-order, wait for release and only buy if the product still appeals after positive product reviews.

 

[benoitb]

The triangle of truth for geek crowdfunding seems to be

Fast
Cheap
Real

Pick any two.

Pyra as a project is slow and expensive. So we only get to pick one, and let's hope it indeed turns out real.

 

[Faust]

@klapse

I read somewhere that they were trying to get the keyboard to act as a touchpad, like with onther device which I forget. They were talking about whter the tech could be licensed from the other company or something.

Yup like the blackberry prive, an amazing feature.

 

[directive0]

Pyra as a project is slow and expensive. So we only get to pick one, and let's hope it indeed turns out real.

Ah, shoot good point. Kinda ruins the triangle.

 

[ible]

maybe it's a square -- fast, cheap, real, quality

then we at least should have quality and real going for the pyra ;D

 

[levi]

I'd prefer a tetrahedron. Means no diagonals to connect - just pick an edge and do both of the things on each end.

 

[ible]

i was just wondering today, what the 4d version of a tetrahedron would look like.

 

[ClockworkCoder]

maybe it's a square -- fast, cheap, real, quality

then we at least should have quality and real going for the pyra ;D

I remember this being discussed before, and there was yet another category: ethical. So we'll have that too

 

[ible]

oh, so we do have a 4d tetrahedron after all! yyes!

 

[Ian J]

I don't see how they can still be at the planning stage and get it shipping by November.