Our New Machine, Pandora

[Goity]

Just the word Linux scares the shite out of the mainstrem consumer, and most people without large experience with Linux. I think it should only be based on Linux to the amount the GP2x was.

Having said that, GPOS from the GP32 was arguably better, and not based on Linux.

 

[atomicthumbs]

Just the word Linux scares the shite out of the mainstrem consumer, and most people without large experience with Linux. I think it should only be based on Linux to the amount the GP2x was.

Having said that, GPOS from the GP32 was arguably better, and not based on Linux.

It does? I never heard about that. Last time I heard, people were converting to Ubuntu by the truckload and loving it.

I think that this should at least come with a gmenu2x style frontend, apt, dpkg, and aptitude at the minimum. That way, we'd be able to install what we wanted while keeping everybody happy!


Also, has anybody thought about apps for the microphone yet? It would be neat to include a voice recorder, and maybe speech recognition as a gimmick.

 

[Tobriand]

Well, if you're after a simple microphone-based game, how about an imitation-based one? It plays back a quote from someone, the player does their best to mimick the voice, and gets scored for it. Basically the software would compare things like volume, frequency, speed etc. to see how close the player was.

Would probably be a bit empty on it's own, but you could implement something similar into an RPG or some such were anyone actually to decide to make one.

Other microphone gimicks...

A crap game competition entry could be a robot-answering machine simulator. Complete with the 20 minute "your call is important to us..." wait times.

Kai's Power Goo for sound would be kinda cool to have, too. Stretch recordings, make higher pitched, slow them down, do DJ-esque operations and such.

Karaoke games! The console records from the microphone, whilst playing back the backing from a song, then has the option to play back the last sung song just to hear how bad you really are at singing. This could be further extended in the "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue" direction by having a song that, e.g. cuts out half-way through, and you have to keep going.

Voice-passwords. Can't say I'd trust them to be secure, but hey, it's certainly a possibility.

That'll do to start with...

 

[Squidge]

If we want to go for a mainstream audience (like people on here seem to keep suggesting), so really we should junk Linux completely, and just install WinCE. Everyone knows how to use WinCE. Lots of people still see "Linux" and regard it as a complicated OS for nerds.

 

[X-Code]

Don't mention WinCE in my virtual presence again! :lol:

 

[PeterM]

Don't mention WinCE in my virtual presence again! :lol:

WinCE WinCE WinCE!

Didn't Firefly put Windows CE on GP32?
http://users.skynet.be/firefly/gp32/index.htm

I'd be pretty happy if the new machine could run WinCE. There are lots of games and apps out for it already.

The big problem is that the free compiler is complete garbage. That's a deal breaker for me.

 

[imec]

No Ubuntu! I hate that distro with a white flame of uncontrollable rage. Just stick with Debian, it's the same thing except without the invasive multicultural theme. I certainly don't like watching an Asian, Muslim, African, and European smearing each others poop all over themselves while the song "People Are People" plays in the background every time my computer boots up. Sabayon is my favorite, but unfortunately, most people don't like it because it's Gentoo based. Emerge is so simple and easy, but it hasn't received the kind of support Nubuntu has. Thus it doesn't have as many packages compiled, so it can be a pain to find some stuff, but for your average user it has everything you will need. I like Debian, but the last time I used it there were some stability issues, but it was probably a problem with my firmware hacked videocard, no Linux driver seemed to enjoy its company. I still believe Debian is the best choice though.

 

[Mr. Ksoft]

Lots of people still see "Linux" and regard it as a complicated OS for nerds.

MY idea, then, would be to run this handheld on Linux, but never mention this in the marketing. If they don't even know that it runs it, then they won't dismiss it because it runs it.

 

[atomicthumbs]

No Ubuntu! I hate that distro with a white flame of uncontrollable rage. Just stick with Debian, it's the same thing except without the invasive multicultural theme. I certainly don't like watching an Asian, Muslim, African, and European smearing each others poop all over themselves while the song "People Are People" plays in the background every time my computer boots up. Sabayon is my favorite, but unfortunately, most people don't like it because it's Gentoo based. Emerge is so simple and easy, but it hasn't received the kind of support Nubuntu has. Thus it doesn't have as many packages compiled, so it can be a pain to find some stuff, but for your average user it has everything you will need. I like Debian, but the last time I used it there were some stability issues, but it was probably a problem with my firmware hacked videocard, no Linux driver seemed to enjoy its company. I still believe Debian is the best choice though.

"Invasive multicultural theme"? Good god, the only "multicultural" part of it is that "Ubuntu" means "humanity" in some African language.

Emerge may be easy, but Ubuntu is the most widley used Linux distro.

Why don't we all just SHUT THE FUCK UP about this, and get back to talking about the Craiginator instead of retarded arguments about how we're bigoted against linux distros and which is better and how NOBODY WILL BUY IT if it has Linux?! JUST SHUT UP. NOW.

Let Craig and the others decide this for themselves. It won't have Ubuntu or any other "mainstream" Linux distribution on it, so just SHUT UP.

SHUT UP.

I'm sorry to have to talk like this, but I am SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF.

 

[PeterM]

Ouch my eyes.

Would it be possible for an administrator to create a Craiginator forum where people could discuss the different topics in separate threads? That way we don't have to read the ones which don't interest us.

 

[Tobriand]

Ouch my eyes.

Would it be possible for an administrator to create a Craiginator forum where people could discuss the different topics in separate threads? That way we don't have to read the ones which don't interest us.

I dunno... I kinda like the monster thread...

 

[atomicthumbs]

Ouch my eyes.

Would it be possible for an administrator to create a Craiginator forum where people could discuss the different topics in separate threads? That way we don't have to read the ones which don't interest us.

I dunno... I kinda like the monster thread...


The monster thread is degenerating into an all-out flamewar.

How about this:

A large forum I'm a member of, Facepunch Studios, has some awesome addons to the normal Vbulletin system.

For instance, ratings. You can rate somebody's post funny, agree, disagree, good idea, artistic, informative, "thanks", and a variety of others.

I now have enough posts to create a Custom Forum on there, which could be for Craiginator discussion. How does that sound?

 

[sam fisher]

For gods sake. You CANNOT split the forum. It just will NOT move to another site just because it has a forum that YOU create. Hardly anyone uses your wiki and the same will be true for you forum. Stop doing retarded things.

Edit: We really have no need for post ratings. That reason in your argument is irrelevant. It would be *your* forum, so you have a vested interest for this split to occur. Therefore, your argument in favour of splitting the forum holds very little weight.

 

[J201605]

Why don't we all just SHUT THE FUCK UP about this, and get back to talking about the Craiginator instead of retarded arguments about how we're bigoted against linux distros and which is better and how NOBODY WILL BUY IT if it has Linux?! JUST SHUT UP. NOW.

Let Craig and the others decide this for themselves. It won't have Ubuntu or any other "mainstream" Linux distribution on it, so just SHUT UP.

SHUT UP.

I'm sorry to have to talk like this, but I am SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF.


Then don't read it... if an announcement is made you'll know, its a legitimate discussion about what OS would be best and what the best way to market it would be (whether to advertise it as linux because nerds are the main market or whether to target the general public because everyone would want one and whether doing that would stop some of the linux users who would be more interested if they instantly knew it was a linux device). The only really annoying thing in this thread is when people start typing in all caps and getting emotional/taking things too seriously/swearing at people who disagree with them instead of making an actual point.

 

[MWeston]

I personally think it is fine to announce the product as a Linux based device. As long as the interface is very intuitive and complete, non-techie users don't have to know anything about how the kernel works. More and more cell phones run on Linux but no one has to do any coding to make it work! Even those Nokia Nxxx devices run Linux but no one is scared away from them.

 

[Lazy8s]

Nice accomplishment on building a working i.MX31 portable by yourself!

Sega Sammy's Aurora platform, based on the SH3707 SoC (one of the few MBX solutions that clocks the graphics core high, at 150-MHz), has a custom version of that vase demo made for it.

http://gakusei.enjapan.com/09/images/00/05...0031840_V01.wmv

 

[A_SN]

People who know how to use a computer quite a bit know Linux, and even if they wouldn't put it on their Dell they wouldn't mind having it on a console provided the console is simple to use and not confusing or too demanding in knowledge/skills.

Normal people don't care whether it's Linux, WinCE, PalmOS or whatever, they only care about what you can do with it, how easily, and how cool it will make them seem.

 

[X-Code]

I'm not normal, I don't like WinCE or PalmOS and I love Linux with all it's defects

 

[Squidge]

Lots of people still see "Linux" and regard it as a complicated OS for nerds.

MY idea, then, would be to run this handheld on Linux, but never mention this in the marketing. If they don't even know that it runs it, then they won't dismiss it because it runs it.


Or maybe go down both routes - advertise as Linux open-source, but show a video which tells you exactly how easy it is to do things.

I'm sorry to have to talk like this, but I am SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF.

You don't have to read this thread if you don't like the contents

(Or you can just read the posts of interest, which is what I do....)

 

[MWeston]

Nice accomplishment on building a working i.MX31 portable by yourself!

Sega Sammy's Aurora platform, based on the SH3707 SoC (one of the few MBX solutions that clocks the graphics core high, at 150-MHz), has a custom version of that vase demo made for it.

http://gakusei.enjapan.com/09/images/00/05...0031840_V01.wmv


Thanks! That video was interesting but I wish they showed more than 2 seconds of it. Got any other links?