What's yours? 4G/3G not specifically for gaming. How does cellular modem not make it a better Pandora? Why limit something that's
already there. Well, with the "it can't happen" attitude, attention wouldn't have been brought to it in the first place.
The problem is that you have to limit things at some point otherwise you can't stop including features - I was trying to hint at that in my last post: the Pyra is capable of talking to any device available that "speaks" usb - so everything necessary is already there. Think of FM/UKW/whatever radio modules, DVB-? modules etc. Acorrding to your logic (why limit when its already there) this all should be included without a second thought, if someone makes a post about it.So my point is that an arbitrary line has to be drawn somewhere, to prevent feature creep. Including an extra speaker and microphone is on the other side of that line in my opinion, yours may differ - in the end its up to Ed
That was an attempt at sarcasm. My fault for not putting it in quotes or not putting "/s" at the end. :lol:
"We" as in the people who are making it.
Making something optional doesn't mean wouldn't be bought be a large group and even then,artificially bringing down demand doesn't really help there.
Ed can't produce things "on demand" in various quantities, he has to order in certain quantities, to keep prices on a level that fits his orginial calculations, so he already limits it artifically.
You making it seem like he isn't changing the case at all. Also, not even sure if that was the reason. I think it had something to do with blocking the ports when in use.
No he was specifically mentioning tooling/production costs (as a side factor). But it is not about making any changes to the case in general, its about making changes that only a small amount of customers will probably use.
figure that, but your post was making it seem like he wasn't going to help at all. Not only that, you don't know if it's only a part of a small userbase could(?) use. Do you really think he wouldn't or get someone to actually have it working with the software? Do you really think he just going dump that on the user?
Both options are equally possible, and looking at the Pandora he surely would not "dump that on the user" but he wont make it magically happen either. Look at some of the Pandora features, and how long it took till they were available (like proper powermanagement) or still aren't really usable today (like the dsp). Just because it is there in hardware does not necesarrily mean it will get a proper counterpart in software.
You can also use your phone... We already went through this.
No, thats not the point: You want to get rid of your phone - fine do that, we don't need extra alterations for that just use a headset. No Additonal costs - a Headset port is there and the Pyra will have bluethooth.
Not sure how a speaker and mic on the outside kills the "core" functionality. And how the possibility of a cellular modem come up? By
at least saying something about it.
With including a speaker and a microphone you put more emphasis on the phone part - meaning it is meant as a "core" feature - if its meant as just a byproduct, why put it in in the first place. So peoples expectations about that particular feature will rise thus ED needs to give at least something workable otherwise comments/reviews with a line "they even would give you the option to look stupid while beeing on the phone, if they could deliver a proper/working phone software" are a certainty. And we are back at one of my "core" points: EDs resources aren't endless, and the more he has to take care of - feature wise - the more the resources get spread thin.
Sounds like you would object to 4G/3G in general, if it was already an option.
Where did I gave you the impression ? I am planning on buying the 3G version (if I can afford it).
Unrelated to our current discussion: You mentioned several times that you plan on having a 4G Pyra in the future. If I remember ED correctly, he said that 4G was not an option due to cost and/or (can't remember anymore) size restrictions of the antenna. Wouln't that require a new peripheral board too, or does my memory just fail me here ?
What do you gain from objecting this? Oh, right. Nothing
Beside that partaking in a discussion can be beneficial in general, this whole subsection is about discussion of ideas so EDs can see what the community has in mind for the Pyra, where is the problem if I vocalize my discontent with some ideas ?