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Two players bomberman in tablet mode should be marvelous!
 
Jumpman said:
Even though I've loved "N" most of my life in regards to gaming, I hate the company they have become so much.
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vcoleiro1 said:
@Jumpman

I thought Joels response to his video being taken down was on point
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I see I'm not alone in my assessment.

I know I've said it before, but if "N" went out of business tomorrow, I wouldn't loose a minutes sleep over it. Fans like Joel, and me, and god knows whomever else, just love gaming, and "N" has always been a HUGE part of that.

The company now is everything I hate about gaming, and for a company that pretty much only has it's base fans left(as they are the only ones who put up with this SHIT), they are completely alienating the only people who really care, and it's rather sad to watch.

Where I barely play or care for most things "N" anymore(as I reached his point long ago), my son may be more of a fan than I am/was. He plays and talks about "N" daily, and I love to see his joy in what has all but died for me with BS like this. He's a child, and can't see the negative in what they do now. Hopefully one day, they will return to the company I loved growing up, and he can continue to love them in to his adult life, but I'm not very hopeful in that regard.

Chris
 
I think the surface degradation from the skin prototyping pictures looks cool. I think I would pay for new things with that look.
 
well, i think we'll always be disappointed, one way or another, with corporations in the world. like people, they're bound to do things we don't agree with... not sure we should be surprised at that, or lose all hope :). (just in people, and corporations, etc.)

it does pique my interest that Zelda is so highly reviewed. i think one of my in-laws will get the switch (if they don't have it already), and i may "borrow" it.
 
Jumpman said:
I see I'm not alone in my assessment.

I know I've said it before, but if "N" went out of business tomorrow, I wouldn't loose a minutes sleep over it. Fans like Joel, and me, and god knows whomever else, just love gaming, and "N" has always been a HUGE part of that.

The company now is everything I hate about gaming, and for a company that pretty much only has it's base fans left(as they are the only ones who put up with this SHIT), they are completely alienating the only people who really care, and it's rather sad to watch.

Where I barely play or care for most things "N" anymore(as I reached his point long ago), my son may be more of a fan than I am/was. He plays and talks about "N" daily, and I love to see his joy in what has all but died for me with BS like this. He's a child, and can't see the negative in what they do now. Hopefully one day, they will return to the company I loved growing up, and he can continue to love them in to his adult life, but I'm not very hopeful in that regard.

Chris
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It's funny because it's seems to be that they are one of the only companies trying to preserve what I love about gaming... o_O.
They are making some mistakes that have me screaming but overall they keep making fun games and are not trying to follow the "let's make this as realistic as possible" trap that many of the AAA are locked in now. Couple that with too much focus on online gaming as opposed to the golden age of 4 player couch gaming with beer/booze and I'm glad keep trying to make gaming more directly social.

When I was growing up, I was the weird nerdy kid that liked computers and video games. Nowadays EVERYONE plays games. But the weird nerdy kids seem to be having their hobby taken over by "the popular masses" or something like that.
 
@Askarus Don't forget to shout "Einsatz Nintendo Switch-Station!" as you put the console into the dock, like the docking instructions in the Switch's messages menu suggest you do.
 
PokeParadox said:
It's funny because it's seems to be that they are one of the only companies trying to preserve what I love about gaming... o_O.
They are making some mistakes that have me screaming but overall they keep making fun games and are not trying to follow the "let's make this as realistic as possible" trap that many of the AAA are locked in now. Couple that with too much focus on online gaming as opposed to the golden age of 4 player couch gaming with beer/booze and I'm glad keep trying to make gaming more directly social.

When I was growing up, I was the weird nerdy kid that liked computers and video games. Nowadays EVERYONE plays games. But the weird nerdy kids seem to be having their hobby taken over by "the popular masses" or something like that.
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The new Zelda looks beyond AMAZING, and I can't wait to play it, but for 95% of their games, if I've played one, I've played them all. Every once in awhile now, you get a new unique experience, but for the most part any new innovations pretty much make great games worse(SF ZERO, IMO), and everything else is just so so efforts, that take years to release. A game like Mario Kart should honestly be released annually with new tracks and characters, or at the very least offer DLC on a regular basis to keep things new. Each new console gets the same game, sometimes better, sometimes worse, and with uber long waits.

I agree, 4 players together was a blast, and I miss Goldeneye sessions, and everything else, but the reality for me, and I would guess many others, is I'm not a young kid anymore who has boundless time to put that together. All my friends & family are around the country, or world. We can get together online and play anytime, and anywhere. The party vibe is great when it can happen, but the reason so may pay for online, is because it opens up a world of possibilities. If people want to play in a room with friends, great, I have no problem with that. If others can't, why not make a system as robust as possible to meet many needs, wants, and styles?

Choices and options in the end, or what is best as many people have many different needs and wants when it comes to gaming, and sadly, that is something "N" has never learned, or flat out refuses to acknowledge. They know best, and if you don't like it, to bad. And then when things sale poorly, or don't meet expectations, they blame the user base for not understanding their vision. How about they don't understand what the users want, and are to out of touch to care.

Chris
 
So the issue with the Joycons has been discovered, it's the poor Antennaes in them. Apparently the right joycon has an antennae that is a bit better than the left one which is why there is a discrepancy between the two.

This guy figured out a fix that works well, check it below:

 
Well, here's a video showing all the problems that aren't joy-con related(well, some are), but you get the point.


Chris
 
Jumpman said:
Well, here's a video showing all the problems that aren't joy-con related(well, some are), but you get the point.Chris
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WOW so many poor design issues, can't believe those black covers can be put on wrong when as one of the guys in the video stated this is to be used by kids too.

A dock that scratches your screen, how nice.

I know these are just a few out of the hundreds of thousands sold but it is a bit of a worry for the products build quality, not everyone that gets a faulty unit will video it most will just take it back to where they bought it for a replacement/refund.

Looks like we may be best waiting for the Switch Lite.
 
Some of the people in this video gives me the same feeling like this kids in the kindergarten, which are trying getting the square block in the round hole of their toy with brute force and are complaining afterwards about the broken toy.

How did they manage to scratch their glass screen with the plastic case?

Nintendo did make design mistakes.
But many of the faults Nintendo is blamed, are done by using brute force like "Hey, will it survive a drop from the house roof", "Can I put the switch in a pocket and sit on it?", "How much force do I need to bend it till something pops of?",...
Don't jump on the hate-train until you knew what happened with the switch before the camera got switched on.
 
Bernd said:
Some of the people in this video gives me the same feeling like this kids in the kindergarten, which are trying getting the square block in the round hole of their toy with brute force and are complaining afterwards about the broken toy.

How did they manage to scratch their glass screen with the plastic case?

Nintendo did make design mistakes.
But many of the faults Nintendo is blamed, are done by using brute force like "Hey, will it survive a drop from the house roof", "Can I put the switch in a pocket and sit on it?", "How much force do I need to bend it till something pops of?",...
Don't jump on the hate-train until you knew what happened with the switch before the camera got switched on.
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You forgot the "will it blend?"...
 
Ian J said:
WOW so many poor design issues, can't believe those black covers can be put on wrong when as one of the guys in the video stated this is to be used by kids too.

A dock that scratches your screen, how nice.

I know these are just a few out of the hundreds of thousands sold but it is a bit of a worry for the products build quality, not everyone that gets a faulty unit will video it most will just take it back to where they bought it for a replacement/refund.

Looks like we may be best waiting for the Switch Lite.
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Honestly, besides my original US NES having the cart slot issues that every system had, I've had no issues with any "N" hardware personally ever since. But, just having seen the last 10 years of operations in general, the quality down step has been a long time coming, and is of no surprise to me personally.

When the Wii U starting hemorrhaging cash for them years ago, I've seen where the pennies have started to be pinched. At one point, Iwata took a pay cut, as to not fire anyone in Japan, while a noble sentiment, sometimes job loss is the start of change. If you have a ton of people you are paying for a job, and there isn't enough money coming in to cover said jobs, maybe someone should have looked at the jobs, and see what the value may or may not be.

I know in Japan and EU, they stopped including a charger for the 3DS awhile ago, then a few years back, that rolled over to the US, which is just about the cheapest shit ever. I'm sorry, but I don't know of a single electronic device that needs to be charged out of the box, where there isn't something included to allow for said charge. Hell, even items that take batteries, often give a cheap set of batteries to get you going if you don't have any handy. So an adapter that cost pennies on the dollar, especially in the qty they buy/produce them in is not included, but they give you a forest worth of paper manuals with each system, that could all be included digitally, but instead, they save money where it matters to the consumer, instead of the area where it doesn't.

Since the 3DS they have began to have system quality control issues, that are ignored, and just never fixed. The 3DS had an issue where when closed, the screen would get scratch due to the nub placement. Here in the states, Amazon stopped carrying "N" products for many years, and this was the rumor of why. Amazon got a ton of returns, "N" didn't want to replace or fix the issue, and Amazon said **** You! I've also noticed a severe lowering of quality in games over the same period, so seeing the NS arrive in this condition is no surprise.

And of course, all things have a failure rate, but the NS was not well thought out, appears to be beyond rushed to market, and the joy-con issues have been determined to be hardware(see video). "N" of 10 + years ago would have never sent something like this to market, but it's the product of years of poor management, and pinching pennies. Hell, my Wiimote can turn on my Wii from anywhere in my home, even when line of site is not there, so how does a controller designed over 10 years ago, work better than one recently designed, that has way more current tech? For a system that was announced so long ago, and since the Wii U has gotten almost no support in the same time, I have to ask, what the hell have they been doing all this time? It certainly hasn't been on game design(except for maybe Zelda), or features for the OS, or online, or anything so it would appear.


Chris
 
Bernd said:
Some of the people in this video gives me the same feeling like this kids in the kindergarten, which are trying getting the square block in the round hole of their toy with brute force and are complaining afterwards about the broken toy.
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I didn't see anyone in this video forcing the covers onto the pads or the screen into the cradle.
 
I have noticed a number of people commenting that they have no issues with their joycons , even if they go further away or cover them with their body. Might just be a bad batch. Should be an easy HW fix for Nintendo either way
 
I wonder why they didn't just go with a DS XL form factor and have blue-tooth controllers for home use.

If it had been a clamshell design I probably would have bought one at launch, as it is it's far too fragile for commuter use.
 
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