Nintendo Switch
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I have also a GBA SP to play my GB and GBC Games; or I use the Goomba Emu on the Everdrive GBA in the GB Micro 
My original Gameboy also works quite good but it's not that good for the eyes whitout Display Backlight
My original Gameboy also works quite good but it's not that good for the eyes whitout Display Backlight
Exophase
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Bigger problem for DS or 3DS compatibility would be if Switch indeed lacks a touch screen.
This would probably make Nintendo's DS Virtual Console library dead in the water. I can't see them supporting Wii U very much after this..
iprice
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I posted a pic on NintendoLife yesterday, which indicates that it will be touchscreen - I grabbed the image from the preview vid.
Looks like there's a space for a stylus at the bottom on the rear of the console. Looks like the perfect place for a stylus and about the right size...
Also, I suspect that you may be able to be play on tv AND on the Switch (a la WiiU) - it wasn;t shown, but surely it's a possibility. Item management/maps etc. on the Switch, main game on the tv. Nintendo have said there are a lot of features that they haven't mentioned yet. I reckon that's one of them.
Looks like there's a space for a stylus at the bottom on the rear of the console. Looks like the perfect place for a stylus and about the right size...
Also, I suspect that you may be able to be play on tv AND on the Switch (a la WiiU) - it wasn;t shown, but surely it's a possibility. Item management/maps etc. on the Switch, main game on the tv. Nintendo have said there are a lot of features that they haven't mentioned yet. I reckon that's one of them.
Exophase
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Also looks like the perfect place for an aligning notch to make it easier to plug into the dock.
iprice
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Exophase
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We shall see.
What I don't really get is why Nintendo would be so secretive about it. Refusing to answer the question sounds like what they'd do if they don't want that aspect to sag the reveal hype.
Seems very clear to me that it has four.
What I can't tell is if there are more hidden buttons in the connector edge that can be used in split controller mode. Because the shoulders won't be reasonable accessible at all, especially since they're in different locations depending on the controller. That shoulder protrusion will also make the thing even less comfortable to hold.
I think the whole split controller concept, while the only really novel thing revealed so far, is kind of a dubious prospect... Those controllers look quite limited and uncomfortable, a real make-shift quality. And I just don't really buy that this functionality is that attractive. I don't think adults really play dedicated gaming handhelds in public and with other people, or at least I never see it happening in airports or on planes (as opposed to people playing stuff on their phones which is ubiquitous).
Plus, two people looking at the same ~6" screen propped up on a table sounds miserable. Especially for split screen gaming. No thanks.
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iprice
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Maybe they didn't want people to confuse it with a tablet? Don't know. I suspect that there were no real uses for it in the games themselves (other than item management), but they could at least have answered the question.
Just shows, that they've given up trying to compete with M$ and Sony - for good reason.
Seeing Nintendo's clueless attemps at being interesting again besides those two at some big event is just sad.
I'm personally hoping that the dock has some cooling fans or some other aid to thermal dissipation. Isn't heat one of the big limiting factors for devices like N.Switch, NVidia Shields, etc?
If the GPU is beefy enough to drive HD resolution TV (and that's a big if) then the other limitations are battery and heat. Battery is not a problem when docked due to power supply. Only the heat issue is left (which is compounded if charging battery, since that generates heat as well).
For me Nintendo offers much more than Sony and Microsoft.
I hope it's not a cooling fan.
I'm hoping for silent gaming.
Exophase
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If the Switch and/or the dock are plastic they're not going to transfer heat to an active cooling solution too efficiently, and the dock doesn't look very thick or well vented. Plus Nintendo says outright that the main function of the dock is to provide TV out and power input. This may be a matter of priority, but I think if it were providing some kind of cooling that would also be listed as a primary feature.
That said, the Switch unit itself appears to have venting holes at the top and I can't see why they'd be there if not for facilitating forced convection. I've never seen anything like that on a fan-less tablet:
http://www.aybonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Switch6-1024x576.png
That may even be a fan visible beneath the vent...
I think the extra power dissipation from charging and HDMI output would be at least partially offset by turning off the screen.
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I was thinking more of a air output vent on the dock which aligns with a corresponding air duct on the Switch device itself. Think laptop cooling pads but more tightly integrated (and hopefully not as noisy). The heatsink on the device would need to be really good though, to transfer heat efficiently at the higher CFM the dock would provide.
True that.
Christoph.Krn
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It's not random, their next financial results reveal and Investor Q&A meeting will take place on 2016-10-26.
As for why they did it the way they did, read my previous comment above.
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I wouldn't mind a fan, but that would mean it would tend to throttle when in handheld mode, and I don't want that.
Regarding the supposed stylus slot, right in the middle at the bottom edge is a place Nintendo have never seen fit to put a stylus slot before.
Regarding charge, I suspect the detachable controllers might have some sort of supercapacitor in them, or a small battery. I guess that piece that they both plug into is a battery pack, although whether you can also charge that from the base station is a question that arises. I guess that would be resolved if we had any ideas about how the system would be sold - there seem to be a lot of little bits. Personally, them saying the dock is only a TV out box plus a charger means they might sell that separately, and the tabletty bit with two joycons is the main initial SKU (along with some plug system to let you charge it, presumably).
Regarding the supposed stylus slot, right in the middle at the bottom edge is a place Nintendo have never seen fit to put a stylus slot before.
Regarding charge, I suspect the detachable controllers might have some sort of supercapacitor in them, or a small battery. I guess that piece that they both plug into is a battery pack, although whether you can also charge that from the base station is a question that arises. I guess that would be resolved if we had any ideas about how the system would be sold - there seem to be a lot of little bits. Personally, them saying the dock is only a TV out box plus a charger means they might sell that separately, and the tabletty bit with two joycons is the main initial SKU (along with some plug system to let you charge it, presumably).
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The dimensions of this are much larger in order to afford a significantly larger battery, not to mention it's got backup batteries in the controllers when they're docked: controllers don't need a lot of energy, but they have a lot of room for excess batteries. I think you are making an unfair estimate. The 3DS's battery is tiny, just a quarter of what the Pandora has, and even though it will have a much higher consumption it also has potential for a significantly larger battery.
You may be right, battery life could suck, but it wouldn't be for the reasoning you're supplying.
They've got both Unreal and Unity on board instead of a custom API. Controls are pretty much standard. They've opted for cartridges instead of disks which means faster, potentially zero, load time. There's nothing "revolutionary" being sold that developers need to pander to (like a second screen or motion controls) that might make them shy away. There is no way this can be the Wii U all over again because the situation to start with is completely different. The Wii U chugged along as it did because of a number of key mistakes Nintendo made, which so far they've not repeated.
Again, you may be right, it could have trouble getting any third party support and fail (or at least struggle the way the Wii U did), but it won't be for any of the reasons you've given here.
This is the new "N", as they would rather give 10% information, and let the internet buzz for months based on the other 90%. It's not how they did things back in the day, but considering how out of touch they are now a days, it's just better to give less than more, as that way interest will stay high. Once they reveal everything, then consumers can say I don't want this, and move on before it is even released. Which is what happened with the Wii U.
How long have you followed "N"? You do know they save dimes at every corner, and they no longer include an AC adapter for the 3DS worldwide. This is the only commercially released handheld device I know of that doesn't include a way to charge out of the box.
A bigger battery, means bigger cost, plain and simple. The Wii U was released with a small battery, and a bigger compartment for a larger battery, which they sold separately at launch. Why would they now include the best battery, when they can give a lesser one, and charge for the bigger one? Or just save money and go small, and wait for the revision to have better battery life.
The standard 3DS has a small battery, and the XL has a bigger one, the improvement of time is about an 30 mins-hour or so I believe between both devices. I'm not sure of much in regards to Switch, but I would bet the farm that the battery is 2-3 hours, and maybe slightly more if you play with the dimmest setting possible. Of course the battery for the Switch will be larger than the 3DS, but that doesn't mean the time will last longer, as 2-3 hours has been the "N" standard battery life of their last few systems that have included a rechargeable battery at launch.
Maybe I didn't make a clear statement in regards to the battery, but I assumed everyone here already knew the battery would be bigger, and based on the last few devices "N" has offered with poor technology last a short period, so why would a 10x better device all of a sudden have a super 10hr style Pandora battery? Not going to happen.
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