Next Big Deadline (january 15th)

[Phawx]

Since the prototype batteries have already been delivered, shouldn't the new case design be ready?

Does it really have to wait until the 15th? Couldn't something actually be done ahead of schedule?

Perhaps, I am being insensitive. I don't really know what goes into these designs, but because it seemed to be "mostly" done the last time I saw it, I would figure it would be all, "ZIP, ZIP, ZIP it is done."

Have you guys finished and just waiting on the 15th to update us? Or is the re-design still not finished since the prototype batteries came along?

 

[Bosbeetle]

Since the prototype batteries have already been delivered, shouldn't the new case design be ready?

Does it really have to wait until the 15th? Couldn't something actually be done ahead of schedule?

Perhaps, I am being insensitive. I don't really know what goes into these designs, but because it seemed to be "mostly" done the last time I saw it, I would figure it would be all, "ZIP, ZIP, ZIP it is done."

Have you guys finished and just waiting on the 15th to update us? Or is the re-design still not finished since the prototype batteries came along?

after redesigning it would take at least 1-2 weeks before there is a CNC prototype (according to the frontpage)

 

[Phawx]

I understand that. But we haven't been given word that the CNC prototype even *started*

 

[craigix]

Since the prototype batteries have already been delivered, shouldn't the new case design be ready?

Does it really have to wait until the 15th? Couldn't something actually be done ahead of schedule?

Perhaps, I am being insensitive. I don't really know what goes into these designs, but because it seemed to be "mostly" done the last time I saw it, I would figure it would be all, "ZIP, ZIP, ZIP it is done."

Have you guys finished and just waiting on the 15th to update us? Or is the re-design still not finished since the prototype batteries came along?

Well once the batteries arrived then the case had to be modified to make sure they fit.

This isn't just a case of zip zip zip and it's done, things such as stress areas, strength, thickness and possible variations have to be carefully calculated and added in.

The software used to make these things isn't as simple as your usual 3D editor as a lot more has to go in to it or we will end up with something which does not work.

 

[Mithrildor]

I can't wait. hopefully my pandora arrives before the next holidays) February the 23th. Btw is the case the new design or is it back to the old one because of the battery problems?

 

[Atako]

I like to hear the developers know what they do, and do it with preciseness *BIG THUMBS UP*

andora1:

 

[Phawx]

Well once the batteries arrived then the case had to be modified to make sure they fit.

This isn't just a case of zip zip zip and it's done, things such as stress areas, strength, thickness and possible variations have to be carefully calculated and added in.

The software used to make these things isn't as simple as your usual 3D editor as a lot more has to go in to it or we will end up with something which does not work.

So is the stress testing done in software? Or has the new CNC case been made and is now being abused?

 

[Mithrildor]

Well once the batteries arrived then the case had to be modified to make sure they fit.

This isn't just a case of zip zip zip and it's done, things such as stress areas, strength, thickness and possible variations have to be carefully calculated and added in.

The software used to make these things isn't as simple as your usual 3D editor as a lot more has to go in to it or we will end up with something which does not work.

So is the stress testing done in software? Or has the new CNC case been made and is now being abused?


The first stress testing is always done in the designing software. After that it is being stress-tested one more time I guess. It would be stupid, expensive and time-consuming. for companies to do all the stress-testing in the reallife.

 

[RajTakhar]

<_< Guys stop asking daft questions

If the devs did not do any stress testing (both software and physical)

You lot would then asking for refunds once the Pandora broke in your hands after one key press

Stay patient

And let the Devs stay focused

All will be okay in the end

 

[TaG]

<_< Guys stop asking daft questions

If the devs did not do any stress testing (both software and physical)

You lot would then asking for refunds once the Pandora broke in your hands after one key press

Stay patient

And let the Devs stay focused

All will be okay in the end

Look people have waited a year (or more) for it to get this far, we must get this to CNC now not the 15th. It's worth the risk that it will be crap to save three days... Not.

We've waited because it needs to be right. Lets not try and rush them now. like RajTakhar says.

 

[(naw)mcx]

We have all waited so long, I don't think a little bit more would be bad for our healths.

 

[Phawx]

Wth? Whats with all the angst? I just didn't think they did stress testing in software.

I understand you can do simulations, but simulations are just that. They DO make real life prototypes and have machines pressing and opening and closing devices in real life to test durability.

I don't know if you remember those Dell commercials where it showed the laptops being abused in real life. Like constantly dropping a laptop from 3 feet. A machine that keeps pressing the button on the keyboard. That type of stuff.

If the physical case and components of the Pandora is getting tested through Software than we should be waiting a LOT longer than three days longer. I'd recommend stress testing be done with the physical version of it as well. Hinges are probably the weakest part.

I would imagine having a company doing the testing would take a month or two.

Here --> http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/produ...bility_Test.pdf

 

[pelrun]

I don't know if you remember those Dell commercials where it showed the laptops being abused in real life. Like constantly dropping a laptop from 3 feet. A machine that keeps pressing the button on the keyboard. That type of stuff.

I can believe it - both my Dell laptops acted like they'd gone through that sort of abuse before I got them... :rolleyes:

 

[Game_over]

To be honest, it's always fun waiting on stuff, and it's just two days away anyways. Be patient.

 

[fusion_power]

There probably won't be much to see, it's correct that the CNC case will be white and look a little strange, but it's the final step before MP of the cases.

We do have some photos of what the buttons will look like, which may be a little more exciting:...

Looks good. Is this Printing completely on Top? Or is some transparent coating over the Printing? I can't see it. The fonts look "empty" so it could be only a black printing or do the labeling has a seperate colour? (AFAIK we need at least 2 colours for the Pandoras 2nd functions of the keys)

So is the stress testing done in software? Or has the new CNC case been made and is now being abused?

Interesting, is there a 3D (CAD) Software that also can do a visualisation of material stress? Sonds very useful to make a durable and rigid case. Can Blender do this too?

 

[cube48]

Hoorayy! It seems that Pandora will have the same type of keys as Palm Centro (and Pro)!

More info about the feelings of this keyboard can be found at TreoCentral (scroll down to Keyboard paragraph).

It has really superb feel of touch. Fingers don't slip off it.

Every such update makes me more excited.

 

[Chip]

Looks good. Is this Printing completely on Top? Or is some transparent coating over the Printing? I can't see it.
It looks very much to me like the printing is done on the rubber mat, then a clear hard plastic is applied on top. You're going to have to wait for Craig to confirm or deny this, but if true then it will be virtually impossible for letters to "wear off". An ideal setup.

 

[God Ginrai]

Looks good. Is this Printing completely on Top? Or is some transparent coating over the Printing? I can't see it.
It looks very much to me like the printing is done on the rubber mat, then a clear hard plastic is applied on top. You're going to have to wait for Craig to confirm or deny this, but if true then it will be virtually impossible for letters to "wear off". An ideal setup.

Let's just hope it doesn't feel like the keyboard on the Palm Centro tho'. I have that phone and by God I love it, but I still can't stand the keyboard buttons. They just don't feel good at all. (However, any physical keyboard is better than a virtual keyboard, so it works for that phone)

-God Ginrai

 

[CandidStan]

h34r: what could we expect around the 15th, some CNC prototypes. And maybe even the final go for the production.

/me is excited



I wouldn't hold my excitement bladder on that one, this project is (at least to me) known for surprise delays because of the current economic situation, manufacturer delays and supply shortages; not to mention shipping accidents and acts of FSM.

 

[Eniko]

Wth? Whats with all the angst? I just didn't think they did stress testing in software.

I understand you can do simulations, but simulations are just that. They DO make real life prototypes and have machines pressing and opening and closing devices in real life to test durability.

I don't know if you remember those Dell commercials where it showed the laptops being abused in real life. Like constantly dropping a laptop from 3 feet. A machine that keeps pressing the button on the keyboard. That type of stuff.

If the physical case and components of the Pandora is getting tested through Software than we should be waiting a LOT longer than three days longer. I'd recommend stress testing be done with the physical version of it as well. Hinges are probably the weakest part.

I would imagine having a company doing the testing would take a month or two.

Here --> http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/produ...bility_Test.pdf

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