Kde4 On The Pandora

[darkowl]

I have a feeling that ROX might be worth a look at though.

ROX on XFCE is awesome. For something with limited hardware and a small screen, that would be a lot more appealing than Gnome or KDE, at least in their standard, desktop oriented forms.


Rox filler is great I really hope it get ported.

 

[AireTamStorm]

I've deleted the contents of my terribly off-topic, argumentative post, and I hope a moderator or absolofdoom will clean up the rest.
They were good arguments. KDE is just from a philosophy standpoint different than Gnome. KDE is a Desktop System whereas Gnome is a user interface. If you want every application to behave the same and be in complete harmony, KDE. If you want something simple and easy, yet functional, Gnome. In the Pandora's case, the KIO slaves and multimedia libraries would be extremely advantageous to have, which is why I made my original comment. Do note everyone, I said "non-WM" when I was referring to KDE being a better choice (as in, the libraries would be better than Gnome's libraries).

 

[sdedalus83]

Rox filler is great I really hope it get ported.

Rox-Filer is in Angstrom and Debian ARM. All the other parts are in python, and therefore platform independent.

 

[mazza558]

I've been using an early version of KDE 4.2 for an hour or two now, and it's lightning fast. It would be the best way of showing off the power of the pandora. Moving Plasmoids (desktop widgets) with the touchscreen? Yes, please!

 

[sebt3]

There is an Trolltech (nokia now..) employed, that is working hard to have a GL/ES backend to QT into qt 4.5.
I hope so because the display performance right now seams a bit unfair.

 

[Manabu]

An extremely striped-down version of linux with KDE 3.5 could be run in 22mb of memory. I don't know if it is still possible to do so with KDE 4 because the double-buffering problem with Qt4. With the aquisition of Trolltech by Nokia, I think we can expect good things in future.

 

[benjiro]

An extremely striped-down version of linux with KDE 3.5 could be run in 22mb of memory. I don't know if it is still possible to do so with KDE 4 because the double-buffering problem with Qt4. With the aquisition of Trolltech by Nokia, I think we can expect good things in future.

Dident they drop the memory usage amount in KDE4? I remember reading a few articles, showing that KDE4 has a rather nice drop in its base memory consumption ( less memory / module, and less modules needed ).

 

[Manabu]

Please show-me some good memory comparison that shows KDE 4 using less memory than KDE3. Something like that: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/

This one (the "39% less memory" one) is bogus: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3138

It was latter remade using exmap and the result was that "In similar conditions KDE 3 consumed 97 MB (+29 MB by XServer) on memory, whereas KDE 4 about 170 MB (+72 MB by XServer)."

Most of it is the QT's double-buffering. I don't know how KDE 4.2 is doing, as they now had some time for at least the most obvious memory optmizations. Here an example: http://paul-pach.blogspot.com/2008/03/find...at-in-kde4.html

Oh, the source for my 22mb claim: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...BR&ie=UTF-8 (funny google translation)

 

[conso]

Please show-me some good memory comparison that shows KDE 4 using less memory than KDE3. Something like that: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/

This one (the "39% less memory" one) is bogus: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3138

It was latter remade using exmap and the result was that "In similar conditions KDE 3 consumed 97 MB (+29 MB by XServer) on memory, whereas KDE 4 about 170 MB (+72 MB by XServer)."

Most of it is the QT's double-buffering. I don't know how KDE 4.2 is doing, as they now had some time for at least the most obvious memory optmizations. Here an example: http://paul-pach.blogspot.com/2008/03/find...at-in-kde4.html

Oh, the source for my 22mb claim: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...BR&ie=UTF-8 (funny google translation)



Additionally, kde4 is by far not complete yet and a lot of KDE4 parts aren't fully ported to KDE4-libraries, yet. Using kde4 without additions from nonKDE4-programs and therefor nonKDE4-libraries won't give you a complete Desktop-Environment.
Still, when it comes to a point, where the main programs of KDE4 are useable on small 800x480 displays, most of the memory issues and missing features will probably be solved. Maybe with KDE4.3? Who knows...

 

[Megamixman]

Recently tried KDE 4.2 from the SVN.

I must say it has improved a lot. No more knotify4 taking up 60 wakes per second. Things seem to be smoother. PowerDevil is decent and QtNut does a good job of handling network connections, but really the thing limiting both of them is Solid. It is not yet done, and until is more feature complete, KDE4 can't compete with KDE3 on mobile platforms without being more bloated.

It is definately getting there, and I think by the time KDE 4.3 is out, it will be much more laptop and mobile device friendly. Would be very nice to see it on a MID then.