How Come This Costs $80?
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). Not to mention it will probably be closed to hobbyist developers.
daclassicgamingmaster
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The one with the QWERTY slide-out will be $150, remember that. The $80 model will have a small 3.5" touch screen.
Exophase
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slaanesh
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craigix
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Not to mention to M$ money isn't a concern. They could give them away, they probably would love to give them away to get the market share.
Of course they can't due to all the old unfair competition laws. So they will sell them way below cost instead.
Of course they can't due to all the old unfair competition laws. So they will sell them way below cost instead.
StarG
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Typical ARM9-cpu boards with similiar clocking like the gp2x with a little periphery added are to be bought for the same price (sub $100).. of course they are shipped without case, lcd, buttons. Sometimes they come with network hubs, usb and serial ports instead of.
I'm still looking for technical specs but it seems the cpu is somewhat weak.
So m$ now tries their hand in the handheld market as a hardware vendor too. Let's see what its impact is.
I'm still looking for technical specs but it seems the cpu is somewhat weak.
So m$ now tries their hand in the handheld market as a hardware vendor too. Let's see what its impact is.
Even the $150 version is cheaper than GP2X! As for the controls, it is just a design decision, it wont add to cost. I'm talking material cost, of course.
I think GPH needs competitor(s). Linux game consoles can be mainstream and in hands of many kids.
I think GPH needs competitor(s). Linux game consoles can be mainstream and in hands of many kids.
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StarG
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Its apparent that the GP2x can't win a peripherals war. Thats a design drawback probably made to make a possible new model very attractive.
Yet its competency to have all necessary components as a fine gaming device outclasses this hearthless gadget. The sideshow has no real purpose so to speak. I'm not sure what it could be cabable of anyways.
Yet its competency to have all necessary components as a fine gaming device outclasses this hearthless gadget. The sideshow has no real purpose so to speak. I'm not sure what it could be cabable of anyways.
frutbunn
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There are not that many 2X's, so the cost of production will be much higher... Plus Cum$oft will use their windose monopoly to finance it - they'll not need to turn a profit like the GP2X has too, it'll just need to cut off the competitions oxygen supply (read revenue)...Fargo said:
Do users ever win with Cum$oft 'products' anyway? Better to pay more and keep Ballmer's sweaty palms off your shoulders while you code if you ask me...
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ruckage
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As someone else pointed out a small company like GPH doesn't have th buying power of M$ so components will be more costly, not to mention that I'm sure It will be subsidised by M$ as well. Besides that the two gadget are poles apart so a fair price comparrison isn't possible.Fargo said:
As for GPH needing more competition I think that would be bad for the community. A gaming device like the 2x is a fairly niche item and to add a direct competitor would most likely divide the community and result in one of the companies going bankrupt.
As for whether linux based consoles can be mainstream, of course they can. But not a console like the GP2X. It would need to compete with the likes of nintendo and sony and require a huge catalogue of games. And you can bet that if this was the case it would be tightly locked down so that there would be no open source development and would in reality be no different to any of the other consoles out there. Mainstream isn't always better, personally I like to be different.
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X-Code
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Leaving all that aside, I find the design plain ugly, it also looks uncomfortable B)
tim0391
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i would not say that the gp2x and the sideshow are or will be competitors becuase the sideshow looks like more of a pda design with its touch screen and bluetooth technology wheras the gp2x is built for media and games.
DBH
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Sideshow is just an extension to get more use out of Vista. It's literally like that syncing screen that you can attach to read emails etc off vista when the pc isn't on.
Squidge
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I'd like you to make a gp2x for less than gph sell it for. Prices are always based on mass production quantities. Sell 10 and cost would probably be $5000 each, if not more.
Face it, the gp2x is a niche product - it's not exactly something that will sell thousands every single week like some of the other consoles when they came out.
It's the same with everything. At work we buy full development kits and then throw away everything apart from the jtag programmer, simply because it's cheaper to buy the dev kit, than the jtag equipment on it's own (due to the dev kit company buying the programmers in bulk). Do it with lots of other stuff too (for example, a small division wants an internal file/web server - we buy them an xbox as it's cheaper than a full blown pc and does exactly the same job)
Face it, the gp2x is a niche product - it's not exactly something that will sell thousands every single week like some of the other consoles when they came out.
It's the same with everything. At work we buy full development kits and then throw away everything apart from the jtag programmer, simply because it's cheaper to buy the dev kit, than the jtag equipment on it's own (due to the dev kit company buying the programmers in bulk). Do it with lots of other stuff too (for example, a small division wants an internal file/web server - we buy them an xbox as it's cheaper than a full blown pc and does exactly the same job)
Zune, and now this.
Honestly, I sorta wish MS would stop beating around the bush and release their portable game offering already. I'm sure their game division has had it in mind for awhile.
I didn't really like the Xbox first generation when it came out. I don't have a 360 but I admire its capabilities and microsofts willpower to make it succeed. Having SOTN on a console automatically gives it points in my book.
Thing is, with all this, Microsoft really has some nice advantages to taking the portable market if they wanted to.
The DS is great but can you imagine an affordable gaming handheld with a touchscreen and Windows Mobile built in?
I'm sure Microsoft knows this as well, so I wonder what has held them back for so long. And I'm sure they salivate at the connectivity between the 360 and such a device.
It would push both Windows Mobile and their gaming initiative at once.
That said, it'd still take alot for them to convince me to buy one.
Honestly, I sorta wish MS would stop beating around the bush and release their portable game offering already. I'm sure their game division has had it in mind for awhile.
I didn't really like the Xbox first generation when it came out. I don't have a 360 but I admire its capabilities and microsofts willpower to make it succeed. Having SOTN on a console automatically gives it points in my book.
Thing is, with all this, Microsoft really has some nice advantages to taking the portable market if they wanted to.
The DS is great but can you imagine an affordable gaming handheld with a touchscreen and Windows Mobile built in?
I'm sure Microsoft knows this as well, so I wonder what has held them back for so long. And I'm sure they salivate at the connectivity between the 360 and such a device.
It would push both Windows Mobile and their gaming initiative at once.
That said, it'd still take alot for them to convince me to buy one.
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pkostrze
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Wow, the sideshow looks horrible. The $80 one is way too small to be even a passable PDA let alone a gaming device. The $150 one looks like a crappy PDA phone. I use an old Sony Clie NR70V for my PDA and a GP2X FE for my gaming and would rather be whipped nude with an entire rose bush than trade either.
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