Gp2x - Basic Info Faq

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  1. Prophet

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    GP2X BASIC FAQ

    The GP2X is a Linux based handheld game console and media player, designed & manufactured by the South Korean based company, GamePark Holdings (GPH for short). GPH is comprised of the same design team that created the venerable GP32 handheld console, which became popular amongst homebrew and emulation circles around the world.

    Link: GamePark Holdings GP2X Official Site

    This is not to be confused with the GamePark XGP, which is planned as a 3D oriented commercial based games handheld console similar to the PSP. XGP is expected to come out sometime in 2006. Some (rather ugly IMO) prototypes were recently shown. See here for comparisons between XGP and GP2X: http://www.gp32x.de/gp2x.php (link fixed now)

    Adding to the confusion, GamePark and GamePark Holdings are two different companies. Basically the original GamePark split up, due to differences in philosophy. The people left at GamePark want to create something to compete with Sony and Nintendo, and are NOT interested in emus or homebrew. The people at GamePark Holdings wanted to make a new system specifically aimed at the GP32 audience, with full support for open development of emus and homebrew. That is how the GP2X came to be.

    Release Date: 2005, Late October - Early November. There is no exact day/time.

    Specifications: extracted from http://www.gpx2.com/product/product_spec.asp and updated with some more recent information:

    Price: under $200 - each store will have their own prices and deals.

    Stores:

    http://www.gp2x.co.uk - official UK distributor (same as http://www.gbax.com)
    http://www.gp32z.com - official USA distributor
    http://shop.gp2x.de - official German distributor

    More here: http://www.gpx2.com/support/support_sugest...unho=14&part=00

    What's In The Box: According to gp2x.co.uk the GP2X comes with the following in the box:

    And according to more recent information from GPH the box might include:

    1) GP2X system
    2) Screen protector
    3) Wrist strap
    4) Carry bag
    5) Microfibre cloth wipe
    6) Instruction manual


    Case Colors: The GP2X will ONLY be available in black at first. There may be other colors in the future but it's not guaranteed. This is what the unit will probably look like when it's released:

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    Emulators: There are emulators in the works and being planned for many systems. Some may be available at GP2X's launch, others afterwards. See here for a list of some projects currently underway.

    Games: aside from homebrew games, there are some plans for commercial games. See here for a list of some projects currently underway.

    Backwards Compatability: currently the GP2x is NOT backwards compatable with GP32. There is talk of creating a way to run GP32 programs, but for now it's only talk and may never really happen. However, the GP2X is expected to have a very exciting homebrew & emu scene of its own.

    Screen: 3.5" backlit LCD. 320x240 resolution. NOT a touchscreen. If you want a PDA, get a PocketPC, Palm or Zodiac device.

    TV-Output: Yes, the GP2X will be able to plug right into any television using a special tv-out cable adapter which will be sold seperately. It is said to output S-Video. GPH tells me that no extra power is needed to use the tv-out cable, the GP2X's batteries are enough. The cable will ready when the GP2X is released, and the price is expected to be under $10. Also, videos encoded at high resolutions will be displayed at their full resolution with tv-out (not scaled down to just 320x240).

    Controls: 8 way DIGITAL (it's NOT analog) thumb stick, 4 main action buttons in diamond pattern, 2 shoulder buttons, Start, Select and 2 volume buttons.

    I/O Ports: Headphones, USB (not powered), EXT, DC Power (possibly SDIO in the future) *note* it may be possible to use self-powered USB peripherals with GP2X, i.e. USB hubs & harddrives etc.

    USB Peripherals: Recent information unfortunately reveals the GP2X does NOT feature USB host mode due to the chip implementation used in the final design.

    Media: GP2X uses Secure Digital cards AKA SD. These are relatively cheap, and come in very large capacities (up to 2GB and 4GB now). SD cards are also very popular, and can be used with many PDA's, cameras and other electronics. There is also some internal storage space on the 64MB NAND memory, but it's unknown how much will be available to the user for storage. MMC cards should also work with the GP2X, but SD's are faster and come in larger capacities.

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    Pictured: Yep, that's what an SD card looks like. :p

    Multiplayer & Networking: The GP2X has no form of built-in wireless, nor are there any announced plans for a multiplayer cable of some kind yet. But it's certainly a possibility. It may also be possible to use SDIO WiFi cards in the future, but right now it's all speculative.

    Power: The GP2X uses 2 AA batteries as its primary source of power, providing approximately 6 - 10 hours of continuous use depending on application. Keep in mind, there are now very good and very economical rechargeable AA's, which I've personally used for several years. For some examples, see http://www.thomas-distributing.com/ansmannproducts.htm - I have never personally bought anything there, but it's a good site to learn about what's available. The GP2X can also use an AC adapter - here is what Squidge, a well known developer with a GP2X test board says about AC: "GP2X is 3V Center negative. Exactly the same as the GP32. Power for USB host is not connected."

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    Pictured: rechargeable AA's rock! :)

    CPU/Memory/Graphics/Audio Chip Overview: According to doumentation the GP2X hardware "incorporates a Dual 32bit CPU Processor, Video Processor, Video Post Processor, 2D Graphic Processor, Image Signal Processor and a variety of I/O peripheral components" including an AC97 based audio chip. Each of the two ARM CPU cores is clocked at 200Mhz, and there is 64MB RAM and 64MB NAND flash memory. The graphics processor can accelerate 2D graphics, and process various video and image formats. There is no 3D acceleration, however software based 3D is entirely possible - IMO from the specs we have I would imagine that PS1/Saturn quality 3D should be possible. Think original unaccelerated Quake at very playable speeds. Not so bad, eh?

    Operating System: GP2X is Linux based. This does NOT mean you must use Linux on your PC to interface with your GPX2. Also, since the GP2X can boot from SD cards, theoretically the GP2X could run any OS adapted for it, or even no specific OS at all (i.e. simple bootstrap to directly access hardware). The firmware is flashable, so your GP2X can easily be updated.

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    Development: At first you can use SDL to develop GP2X apps. There are also plans to create SDK's to allow devs to access the hardware more directly, hopefully to take full advantage of the dual CPU cores. There will also be an official GP2X SDK from GPH in the near future. You might also like to read about the SOC (system on chip) the GP2X is based upon: http://www.mesdigital.com/support/downfile...20f_pi_v016.pdf

    DRM (digital rights management): GPH has a DRM ready for selling commercial games (probably similar to how the DRM worked for GP32 & Zodiac). This does NOT affect MP3 playback, and no you don't have to buy emulators. It's just to encourage professional game developers to consider making GP2X games because they know there is a form of piracy protection in place for the system. This information has now been 100% confirmed by both GamePark Holdings themselves, and the official UK GPH distributor. Here is a quote from Anna Hong, a GPH representative:

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    Pictured: The lovely Anna Hong from GPH! :)

    See more photos of Anna here!

    Comments? Questions? Post below...
     
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    Might be an idea to mention that the USB is not powered and that you can likely use devices that need power with a powered USB hub.
     
  4. Prophet

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    anything else I should add? Keep in mind it's only supposed to be a basic info faq, so I want to keep it pretty simple.
     
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    I wouldn't mind knowing what I'm likely to be able to do with if I get it as soon as it's launched. I'm not technially minded in the slightest, so please excuse my ignorance, but I wonder, given that the O/S is linux, whether there will be emulators that can be used straight away.

    Also, will there be video players which can be used straight away?
     
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    Read the Games and Emulators section above.

    And yes, a video and media player will be included.
     
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    There's a video player bundled with it and it should be able to take pretty much any codec that's available for linux.

    Are real/quicktime/WMV Alternative available for linux?
     
  8. Prophet

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    "Preloaded Linux with Media player (MP3, Divx, WMA etc.)"

    WMA is apparently supported out of the box. Don't know about WMV but would love to see it.

    Don't know about RM or QT. But personally I don't even use them.
     
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    I try to avoid QT and RM, too, but a lot of crazy Apple people still use QT... :-/
     
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    Can this be made a sticky? I think it covers everything and will stop a lot of the duplicated threads we are seeing. Thanks
     
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    Yay, it's pinned. :)
     
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    RM and QT might be quite tricky to get, probably requires licenses unless there are linux versions out there. I really hate RM but it has one advantage, although the quality sux you can get down the filesize a lot. And the best part about QT is that you can step back and forth frame by frame, it's also great when streaming because it works better then WMV/ASF streaming.

    But personally I prefer AVI with DivX or Xvid compression. Good quality at a reasonable filesize.
     
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    Yeah, and this thing with the "h" and the three digit number... :ph34r:
     
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    Damn, again... Does this board hang itself often?
     
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    It's been really slow at times since I've joined. Sometimes I have to wait like 2-3 min or maybe more for it to load.
     
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    Most linux media players are based on mplayer, so that would be a good place to start to find out what formats might be supported. Some formats are only supported with windows dll's though, so obviously those won't be possible on the gp2x (I would assume that wmv is one that uses dll's, but maybe older versions have native support now).
     
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    Added:

    USB Peripherals: Since the GP2X's USB host is not powered, to use any peripherals they need to supply their own power. Some examples of peripherals that might work with the GP2X someday are the Apacer Steno Hard Drives and the Cyberpower USB Hubs. Such peripherals operate on their own battery power, so all we need is software to allow the GP2X ro interface properly with them.
     
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    The picture of 'anna' is a hotlinked image...
     
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    Oops, that's cuz I stored it on the Emuboards server which won't allow ouside linking to images. I always forget about that. Removed it from this version of the FAQ. To see the photo, see the FAQ here.

    It'll just be a little bonus there. :)
     
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