GPD Win (x86 Computer / Palmtop)

[vcoleiro1]

The heat sink is the same size as far as I'm aware. In fact the only difference I know of is that it is now finned/ducted (greater surface area)

The Z8750 has more graphic cores than the Z8500 , it's not just frequency differences between the two. In fact GPD claim the Z8700 is 30% faster than the Z8500
Also, there is more than just frequency difference between the Z8750 and the Z8700 , the other difference is that they fixed graphics and other bugs with the Z8700 in the Z8750 - some people have also guessed that they have also fixed some thermals with the Z8700 , although this has never been directly said by Intel. . There are reasons that enabled the higher frequencies.

In relation to the fan. It's the difference between having a car with NOS and the exact same car without. You don't have to use the NOS, but it's there to give those that want it that bit extra. It's a plus, not a negative.

The fanned version of the WIN also has a bigger battery that can give longer battery life over the fanless version, if you decide to turn the fan off. The fan version also has more vent holes which further improve passive cooling.

 

[EvilDragon]

But turning off the fan won't bring the speaker back

 

[comradekingu]

Ånei poor speaker has no friend now.

It isn't 30% faster without a fan blowing at it, so its irrelevant to the initial promise what it does under ideal conditions.

Improving performance by adding holes is cheap, engineering the whole baseplate to be a heatsink isn't.

Intel is by no means above fixing some errata, dialing in some new numbers and rebranding. For the purpose of being the same, you can test clock for clock.

In terms of being a capable product, without no noise added, on the advertised games, it looks as if cost overshadows promise. People bought it for the given cost, at the promised functionality.

Cranking out cheap devices, when not in touch with what games are, or what game-playing people want, is very much the modus operandi of chinese and korean companies in this field. Getting technical and promising to be a laptop, on a new architecture, for very low cost… Cut corners all you like, but there is a wall somewhere.

 

[vcoleiro1]

As I said, the heatsink didn't get smaller, plus they added vents. ie The passive cooling only got better. There's nothing more to say.

 

[Faust]

All videos have been broadcasted without fan, so it's the minimum we can expect from the device, if it's not throttling after 20 minutes. For that case, the fan will be available.

 

[levi]

Indeed, assuming they haven't been sneaky and filmed those videos in very cold conditions, meaning passive cooling with work much more effectively and stop the chip having to throttle as soon as it would at room temperature.

 

[TheOldOne]

Not going to help me much at the bus stop at 110f +

 

[WizardStan]

110f is only 43c, that's still way below the rated temperature and a heatsink/fan can easily dump heat into that.

 

[TheOldOne]

but it's not a 55f server/lab room to run the tests in for overstated cooling.

 

[SNESFAN]

Not going to help me much at the bus stop at 110f +

you want to play games when it's that hot outside? I would be using the little fan in the win to cool myself off at that point. Screw that noise, I hate the heat.

 

[matzesu]

Ditnt folowed this Thread much, as its got now 68 pages, and included lots of technical English..
Dos this mean, the Win lost his speakers, because they needet the holes for the fan ??
Im not realy a "Fan" of this Solution..

 

[ElPoco]

There were originally 2 speakers, but they had to remove one for the fan. So the GPD is now mono (unless you use headphones).

 

[thatgui]

Ditnt folowed this Thread much, as its got now 68 pages, and included lots of technical English..
Dos this mean, the Win lost his speakers, because they needet the holes for the fan ??
Im not realy a "Fan" of this Solution..

Not exactly, only one of the two speakers was ditched, so you are still free to be half-fanatic about the whole thing

 

[Faust]

Not exactly, only one of the two speakers was ditched, so you are still free to be half-fanatic about the whole thing

I hope they'll consider to put a stereo speaker.

 

[EvilDragon]

I hope they'll consider to put a stereo speaker.

I would rather get a unit without fan but two speakers, as I mostly play Indie games that don't need as much CPU/GPU power...

 

[Alperoot]

I would rather get a unit without fan but two speakers, as I mostly play Indie games that don't need as much CPU/GPU power...

Really? Weird. I think getting hot and processor being throttled is much worse than having just one speaker, other people might aswell use headphones.

 

[Exophase]

I would rather get a unit without fan but two speakers, as I mostly play Indie games that don't need as much CPU/GPU power...

I bet it'll be easy to mod to replace the fan with a speaker. With such a late change they probably kept intact everything necessary for this.

 

[Yoyobuae]

I bet it'll be easy to mod to replace the fan with a speaker. With such a late change they probably kept intact everything necessary for this.

Really? Weird. I think getting hot and processor being throttled is much worse than having just one speaker, other people might aswell use headphones.

Idea: Trade fan for someone elses speaker.

 

[vcoleiro1]

I bet it'll be easy to mod to replace the fan with a speaker. With such a late change they probably kept intact everything necessary for this.

Probably could do that I suppose. You're probably right that the speaker points would still be there.

BTW, any chance you will port Drastic to Windows in the future?

 

[Exophase]

BTW, any chance you will port Drastic to Windows in the future?

Yes there's a good chance.