@Exophase likes this kind of confrontations, and because we like Exophase, we need to be "those people"
PowerGod said:So, this is what will happen, the GPD Win maybe will be able to attracts many people at the beginning, but at some point it will naturally become SLOWER than the Pyra, even excluding the hardware upgradability of the latter, and after some years, even if both will be defined "old", the Pyra will still continue to shine.
Pfft, thats nothing compared to the old SEGA/NINTENDO or PC/AMIGA -wars back then, I'm a veteran of those. And this here I would not even call a fight, just conversation. I like the fact that Pyra will get some competition, it shows that the Pandora-concept may have a wider audience now.Did anyone else notice that we have reached the xbox vs playstation console wars in our community? Are we really those people?
Pfft, thats nothing compared to the old SEGA/NINTENDO or PC/AMIGA -wars back then, I'm a veteran of those. And this here I would not even call a fight, just conversation. I like the fact that Pyra will get some competition, it shows that the Pandora-concept may have a wider audience now.
That makes us guys twice stupid too because you know we will support you in whatever you decide to do.I am a pioneer. I am pioneering in being stupid enough being involved in such a project twice
Yup. Amiga versus PC- Amiga versus snes and Megadrive. Amiga versus... well you get the idea. Oh to be a child again.Pfft, thats nothing compared to the old SEGA/NINTENDO or PC/AMIGA -wars back then, I'm a veteran of those. And this here I would not even call a fight, just conversation. I like the fact that Pyra will get some competition, it shows that the Pandora-concept may have a wider audience now.
But I don't think this will be that big for Pyra so as to make it eventually faster than something like GPD Win. Especially if we don't end up having good access to the display controller or don't end up making good use of the 2D accelerator. If we have to go through the GPU for everything it's going to be painful, because this is the part that's not open and doesn't have any kind of low level interface. Here being stuck with OpenGL ES 2.0 as opposed to something like OpenGL 4+ or even Direct3D 12 or Vulkan is going to be a big limiter, and the GPU is going to be a lot weaker to begin with.
I don't think the situation with Windows is going to be nearly as bad as it can be with Android in terms of overhead imposed with things like touch and audio latency. And there are a fair number of emulators that run on Windows that have a good amount of x86 optimizations.
Yeah, see, no one accused you of blasphemy, that's straight up hyperbole, and I'm still not seeing any "religious" debate, certainly nothing even close to a shadow of what XBox vs Playstation (vs Nintendo) dedicated forums get to, not even a Windows vs Linux vs Android. I'm seeing a few members waging a personal war but for the most part it's agnostic, arguing over semantics. The one person who made disparaging comments against Windows basically got lambasted for making that comment, so if you're still trying to paint the entire community as some kind of anti-Windows, anti-anything-but-Pandora/Pyra, despite all the evidence against such an opinion in this very thread, then I don't know what more you want. If that's all it takes to make an entire other community hate us then we never stood a chance.I said something about this a couple months ago and basically got accused of blasphemy
So do I, which is why I'm so confused by this whole concept. People hate us and I don't even understand why.I propose no solution nor am I pointing fingers, I'm just in favor of equality and people accepting other people's view points and preferences as just that.
People here would bungee jump off his balls to protect his name.That makes us guys twice stupid too because you know we will support you in whatever you decide to do.
Of course, you know how soft they are...People here would bungee jump off his balls to protect his name.
But I don't think this will be that big for Pyra so as to make it eventually faster than something like GPD Win. Especially if we don't end up having good access to the display controller or don't end up making good use of the 2D accelerator. If we have to go through the GPU for everything it's going to be painful, because this is the part that's not open and doesn't have any kind of low level interface. Here being stuck with OpenGL ES 2.0 as opposed to something like OpenGL 4+ or even Direct3D 12 or Vulkan is going to be a big limiter, and the GPU is going to be a lot weaker to begin with.
Until people start dying due to their involvement it isn't a war. We can only hope.Did anyone else notice that we have reached the xbox vs playstation console wars in our community? Are we really those people?
Apple II vs C64. I was around and aware of a bunch of this kind of stuff, but I never got in on it. I just don't really care what others want to use/play with. Even during all the years of Nintendo vs others, while I like some Nintendo games and franchises (and like carts over discs, back during the short period when both were on the market) that never stopped me from playing Sonic or various PS games. Hell, even when it comes to an OS I am not hard to one choice. I have moved away from my support of most Linux distros in recent years, and back toward BSD, which I have not messed with in many years. I thought Windows had value (until recently) it just wasn't for me, unless I really wanted to play a certain game. So am I now a Mac fanboy?Or in my case, Spectrum vs C64
Nah, you can still appreciate conflict without being directly involved. Just because you enjoy it doesn't mean you are a troll. I have no interest in being a troll but I like arguing. Also, disagreement makes things better.once there's a hint that the gloves are coming off they back off saying that they find it all funny. There's no life in the trolls anymore, and that's quite sad.
Done!so, call me stupid
I wouldn't say "whatever". Probably, though. Also, our stupidity isn't just because of little handheld computers.That makes us guys twice stupid too because you know we will support you in whatever you decide to do.
Everyone here is a blasphemer, except me and ED. Except when ED doubts himself or his choices. Or all that stuff with the logo. He should have gone with what he thought looked best.Yeah, see, no one accused you of blasphemy
Who cares? If they are willing to talk they may find we aren't as bad as they think, otherwise I see no reason to try to clean up how we are viewed by those that just want to sit back and call us names. Why concern yourself with that if it is just going to make you feel bad?So do I, which is why I'm so confused by this whole concept. People hate us and I don't even understand why.
People here would bungee jump off his balls to protect his name.Of course, you know how soft they are...
I do. I literally just said that it confuses me.Who cares?
Because it has an impact. An entire community, one which has such a significant overlap of interests that we should be fast friends, is actively warning people to stay away from us because of how bad we are, and it's working. There's been more than one person in recent memory that came and said "please don't yell at me but I have this problem blah blah". As the official Pandora/Pyra forum, that is exactly the kind of attitude we don't want.Why concern yourself with that if it is just going to make you feel bad?
What did the lemon claim is his reason for not being able to find a female?