GPD WIN 2

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  1. TheOldOne

    TheOldOne Fallen Paladin

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    Linus Tech Tips has gotten ahold of one but I haven't actually watched the video yet.
    Edit: autocorrect fails
     
  2. SNESFAN

    SNESFAN Retro game fanatic

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    I really like Linus tech tips, but I'm torn on the review of the win2, he makes it seem like it's only powerful enough for game streaming from another PC and console emulation.

    While true it won't handle most recent titles at high settings 60fps, there is plenty of titles it should handle if you lower the quality. He does mention that, but the brunt of the review focusing on what it cant or it's limits.

    He offers no nonsense truthful reviews, but he definitely has a bias in the gear he has an interest in, and those he does not. The Phawx reviews are much better on the win2.
     
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  3. Ian J

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    Sounds very similar to how the Pandora was perceived.
     
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    I watch Linus Tech Tips from time to time, but my opinion is they're not very credible or reliable. Didn't they do a whole series on building a server room, only to use Windows Server as the OS?
     
  5. Caine

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    He has some unrealistic performance expectations.
     
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    I don't get it? Is it supposed to be wrong or something? If you'd said they'd used a "desktop" edition of Windows, I might have raised an eyebrow.
     
  7. Silent-Hunter

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    A lot of people think Windows Server isn't fit for purpose.
     
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  8. levi

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    Well to risk overexplaining a joke, Windows had been a minor fraction of http servers for a few years now:
    https://news.netcraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/wpid-wss-computer-share.png

    (some of those Apache instances will be running on top of Windows, but all of the nginx intances running on something *ixy)

    In terms of non-web facing servers it may be worth considering that Microsoft have done a lot to make their OS act more like *ix for developers, from powershell to ssh logins recently. On the other side all there's really been from *ix has been Samba emabling windows boxes to share files from an *ix box, and since 2012 you can use it to login to a network too, but in the past five years or so it seems to me most of the noteworthy work has been done to make windows servers work with *ixy clients as well as *ixy servers do with any kind of development computer.

    Of course, interoperability is always a good thing. I take no particular glee from this suggesting the MS feel there's more work to do, suggesting they're on the back foot so to speak.
     
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  9. rygD

    rygD Nihilistic Mystic

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    I am a Microsoft and Windows hater, but for certain tasks Windows on servers is just fine. Most of the servers I have worked with were running Windows. I still think *nix is a better choice all around, but many people aren't familiar with it.
     
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  10. SNESFAN

    SNESFAN Retro game fanatic

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    I use both, I run a vmware VDI envrionment. My esxi hosts are all *nix servers, my vcenter, horizion, and SQL servers are windows. I could use *nix for (almost) the entire stack for the sake of doing it, but we get better results from doing the mixture.

    Sometimes hitting the nail with a screw driver, just for the sake of using a screw driver, isn't always the best idea.
     
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  11. rygD

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    Yeah, it was never my call what we used. They had contracts for everything, and I was just a cog making sure everything worked. For some of the software they had contracts for there was no other option other than windows.

    On the other hand, some systems (the first ones I worked with) they used Solaris, and others that are pretty widespread use Linux (although users don't know that), but those are all pretty much just workstations.
     
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  12. SNESFAN

    SNESFAN Retro game fanatic

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    I get quite a bit of creative liberties at work, I'm one of those "men behind the curtain" to management, as long as they like the end result and it's secure and within budget, they leave me alone ;)
     
  13. Ian J

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    Watched the video and within 30 seconds I knew I would struggle to get through the whole thing but persevered, give me Techmoans' presenting style any day of the week.

    Overall the video though was very unimpressive, just the type of person to NOT review the Pyra.

    I really do dislike YouTube "personalities" they're more bothered about their screen presence than actually doing any work & presenting a factually correct well researched review, unfortunately these are the people with large audiences so they get sent the freebies to review.
     
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    Isn´t that just like any other personality on any media? With the exception of a motion graphic animation without voice over, of course. ;)
     
  15. TheOldOne

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    We need Ashens to review it like he did the Pandora. Tho he may be unhappy with the lack of full sized NeoGeo popping out of the second SD slot.
     
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  16. rygD

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    How come this is the first time I am hearing about this? I suppose in addition to feature we need a list of what it doesn't include. That actually might help with marketing a bit, because people like short little bullet statements.
     
  17. levi

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    I don't think I've ever seen a short ashens video. Even his joke ones are a minute or two long I think. He's mostly pushing up against the old 10 minute mark (which I guess isn't long in these days of interminable 3 hour twitch stream recordings, but I still wouldn't call it short in terms of attention spans).
     
  18. benoitb

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    I hate Linus' videos and am actively avoiding them (and avoiding linking to them) to try and not increase their view count.
    The guy named The Phawx did a very nice series of videos on the Win2 and knows what he is talking about.
     
  19. second exodous

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    Eh, I agree with most people, Linus Tech Tips isn't that credible and his bias plays into his videos quite a bit. I liked him when he started out but like a lot of youtube channels he hit the point where his small channel turned into a company and he and the channel had a huge change.

    The WIN 2 review really irked me because I've watched quite a bit of The Phawx videos and by comparison his review really didn't have any information in it. I would be willing to bet he only really looked at it that day. If his company had it before that shoot someone he pays minimum wage probably had it and wrote up a summary for him. He himself looked over the notes, didn't see any games that were tested he liked, so he only talked about streaming.

    He is one person I know will piss all over a Pyra review unit so if ED ever sends out review units to youtubers Linus Tech Tips should be passed over.

    As for Ashens I liked his review of the Pandora, it was fair, and he knows a ton about retro systems.

    The problem with sending out review units is the Pyra's software wise won't be finished for the masses until it's out for a year. I think Ashens got it after the bugs were ironed out.
     
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  20. erico

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    [drunken boxing on]
    Don´t send units to tubers unless a close person with good relationship.
    If time is going to be wasted otherwise then do a kickstarter and its videos and handle the traffic/criticism oneself.
    [drunken boxed out]
     
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