ekianjo
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good luck writing regex in english.
There's a reason that code is code and not written in human language.
There's a reason that code is code and not written in human language.
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WizardStan
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Indeed, but what's the learning curve on learning the basics in BASIC vs learning the basics in Python? Learning Python after you've learned the basics is a lot easier than learning it as a first language, that should be obvious. Ultimately a sufficiently skilled programmer should be able to pick up any language in the same paradigm in almost no time at all. The important part of learning to program is keeping at it long enough to become that skilled programmer. It doesn't matter if Python is a useful language if the person learning it gets bored with it before completing the course. I'm not saying BASIC is a definitively good language for learning, just that it is one of the many good languages for learning: PandaBAS has a lot of great features that would allow him to really perceive progress. You can learn loops in Python and output a bunch of numbers, or you can learn loops in PandaBAS and display a bunch of pictures on the screen. There's more sense of accomplishment in the latter even though they've actually achieved the same thing, but feeling accomplished is a great way to keep at something.Now it could be that a beginner learning Python will actually have a much easier time than in BASIC in which case they should choose Python. I can't say that, it has been 28 years since I first started learning to program on my Vic20, and I picked up Python in about 30 minutes so I've got nothing to compare it to. The point is that the language you learn on doesn't ultimately matter, it should just be something easy and fun.
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You might like Ruby. It's straight forward like that.
EssoAir
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Isnt Ruby also a scripting language? I was hoping to look into sonething more concrete (thats why I tried out Java)
EssoAir
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Is there Ruby for the Pandora?
Nope, Ruby is an object-oriented programming language.
With Rails (Ruby on Rails) it's pretty good at making dynamic websites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_(programming_language)
With Rails (Ruby on Rails) it's pretty good at making dynamic websites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_(programming_language)
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dreamer
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My english regexp must be broken. I'm having trouble parsing this sentence.
EssoAir
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so ive been reading up on it. And WOW ruby looks amazing! Thanjs guise!
ghostpatch
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If I may ask, any idea in what direction you would like to go? You should go for something you like which supports your strengths! The stuff your talking about is "not that easy" : )
you already have one advantage - you speak native english! Usefull for documentations
anyway, don't let anyone disencourage you! but be aware it will be a lot of hard work
ask your question on IRC. Don't expect large explications thougth
you already have one advantage - you speak native english! Usefull for documentations
you can also script with Python!! and sry but Java is.... (can you actually call that programming? 90% is copy and paste right?)EssoAir said:
anyway, don't let anyone disencourage you! but be aware it will be a lot of hard work
ask your question on IRC. Don't expect large explications thougth
ghostpatch
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true,.. Ruby has one big advantage over the others - Rails Girls!!!! .... he he he : pEssoAir said:
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Are you mixing up Java and Javascript? Because it's totally two different things.. Javascript used in web development has turned into a copy and paste fest and since jQuery came out people don't even need to think to throw together a semi-decent web page..
Java while it gets a ton of hate because of web applet security is actually a legitimate language like the C++ and such..
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ghostpatch
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nope, it was ment as a joke Cuz you tend to use objects/classes a lot and don't really know how it works... Thats my experience but it was really just a joke and I think it was funny : D
Cuz you tend to use objects/classes a lot and don't really know how it works... Thats my experience but it was really just a joke and I think it was funny : D
EssoAir
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Rails Girls? Like, girls that WebDev or seomthing?
I took it as a joke on the enormous amounts of boilerplate code needed to graft together the simplest of Java programs
EssoAir
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I went through Objective C for Dummies, but as I aaid, reading is a struggle for me. Now, if I had had the writer right there with me so I could ask him questions, that would be great, but since its a stagnant form of media, it was difficult for me to get anything out of it.
Udacitys CS101 course. Good stuff in short video snippets. Browser-integrated dev environment and code checking. Delicious. Python.
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C for dummies is very, very, very good written. Good explanations, good examples and after each code a lot informations which are useful with markers next to them (must know, technical deep, optional stuff). I learned with it when I was 15, so come on
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I learned the basics of programming via Level I BASIC on my Tandy TRS-80 Model I.. Although how young I was the programs were just basically perverted / low brow Mad Libs..
Even though I was fairly good at quick basic back in the day, I didn't really start to feel like a programmer until at work I started doing server side web programming which then eventually led me to the compiled languages like C/C++ and Java..
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