A Lot Of Pnd's Run Only Once

[laurens]

Hi!


This is a bit of a crosspost from gp32x.de, but I don't know if I should post it here or there.


I'm having a weird problem.


When I have a pnd, it runs once fine. For instance, chromium. If I close it, and try to run it again, it fails. If I remove the chromium dir from appdata, it runs fine again. The problem isn't 100% consistent, sometimes it does work fine a second time.


I have a recorded case with Gargoyle, where I saved the output of dmesg & pndrun:


pndrungargoyle_run.out:

Spoiler

rm: cannot remove `/tmp/cpuspeed': No such file or directory


not mounted on loop yet, doing so


LoopMountedon:


/dev/loop1


Filetype is ISO


sudo mount /dev/loop1


mounting union!


Filesystem is vfat


mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on none,


missing codepage or helper program, or other error


(for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might


need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)


In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try


dmesg | tail or so


[------------------------------]{ App start }[---------------------------------]


/usr/pandora/scripts/pnd_run.sh: line 37: ././run.sh: No such file or directory


[-------------------------------]{ App end }[----------------------------------]


umount: /mnt/utmp/gargoyle: not mounted


cleanup done

dmesg:

Spoiler

>[ 10.563629] NET: Registered protocol family 31


[ 10.563659] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized


[ 10.563659] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized


[ 10.566741] NET: Registered protocol family 2


[ 10.570556] Switched to high resolution mode on CPU 0


[ 10.633209] IP route cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)


[ 10.633789] TCP established hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)


[ 10.634002] TCP bind hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)


[ 10.634155] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192)


[ 10.634155] TCP reno registered


[ 10.656646] NET: Registered protocol family 1


[ 10.657958] NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.97 (double precision)


[ 10.660186] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1


[ 10.660278] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)


[ 10.660797] squashfs: version 4.0 (2009/01/31) Phillip Lougher


[ 10.662963] aufs 2-27


[ 10.662994] msgmni has been set to 485


[ 10.663085] io scheduler noop registered


[ 10.663085] io scheduler anticipatory registered (default)


[ 10.663116] io scheduler deadline registered


[ 10.663269] io scheduler cfq registered


[ 10.685180] Serial: 8250/16550 driver4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled


[ 10.707763] serial8250.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x49020000 (irq = 74) is a ST16654


[ 10.707824] console [ttyS0] enabled


[ 11.150695] brd: module loaded


[ 11.158538] loop: module loaded


[ 11.161712] pndctrl loaded.


[ 11.165130] usbcore: registered new interface driver asix


[ 11.170806] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether


[ 11.176940] usbcore: registered new interface driver rndis_host


[ 11.182983] i2c /dev entries driver


[ 11.188476] input: power-button as /devices/virtual/input/input0


[ 11.219116] triton2 power button driver initialized


[ 11.225677] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods


[ 11.232604] omap2-nand driver initializing


[ 11.237884] NAND device: Manufacturer ID: 0x2c, Chip ID: 0xbc (Micron NAND 512MiB 1,8V 16-bit)


[ 11.247039] cmdlinepart partition parsing not available


[ 11.252349] Creating 5 MTD partitions on "omap2-nand":


[ 11.257537] 0x00000000-0x00080000 : "xloader"


[ 11.262817] 0x00080000-0x00260000 : "uboot"


[ 11.268310] 0x00260000-0x00280000 : "uboot-env"


[ 11.273437] 0x00280000-0x00c80000 : "boot"


[ 11.282226] 0x00c80000-0x20000000 : "rootfs"


[ 11.492797] UBI: attaching mtd4 to ubi0


[ 11.496673] UBI: physical eraseblock size: 131072 bytes (128 KiB)


[ 11.503021] UBI: logical eraseblock size: 129024 bytes


[ 11.508483] UBI: smallest flash I/O unit: 2048


[ 11.513214] UBI: sub-page size: 512


[ 11.517883] UBI: VID header offset: 512 (aligned 512)


[ 11.523773] UBI: data offset: 2048


[ 12.772338] UBI: attached mtd4 to ubi0


[ 12.776184] UBI: MTD device name: "rootfs"


[ 12.781280] UBI: MTD device size: 499 MiB


[ 12.786285] UBI: number of good PEBs: 3990


[ 12.791046] UBI: number of bad PEBs: 6


[ 12.795501] UBI: max. allowed volumes: 128


[ 12.800170] UBI: wear-leveling threshold: 4096


[ 12.804931] UBI: number of internal volumes: 1


[ 12.809417] UBI: number of user volumes: 1


[ 12.813903] UBI: available PEBs: 0


[ 12.818359] UBI: total number of reserved PEBs: 3990


[ 12.823394] UBI: number of PEBs reserved for bad PEB handling: 39


[ 12.829528] UBI: max/mean erase counter: 8/2


[ 12.833831] UBI: image sequence number: 384558657


[ 12.838623] UBI: attaching mtd3 to ubi1


[ 12.842468] UBI: physical eraseblock size: 131072 bytes (128 KiB)


[ 12.848815] UBI: logical eraseblock size: 129024 bytes


[ 12.854278] UBI: smallest flash I/O unit: 2048


[ 12.859008] UBI: sub-page size: 512


[ 12.863677] UBI: VID header offset: 512 (aligned 512)


[ 12.869567] UBI: data offset: 2048


[ 12.876464] UBI: background thread "ubi_bgt0d" started, PID 355


[ 12.919250] UBI: attached mtd3 to ubi1


[ 12.923095] UBI: MTD device name: "boot"


[ 12.928009] UBI: MTD device size: 10 MiB


[ 12.932952] UBI: number of good PEBs: 80


[ 12.937500] UBI: number of bad PEBs: 0


[ 12.941986] UBI: max. allowed volumes: 128


[ 12.946655] UBI: wear-leveling threshold: 4096


[ 12.951385] UBI: number of internal volumes: 1


[ 12.955902] UBI: number of user volumes: 1


[ 12.960357] UBI: available PEBs: 0


[ 12.964843] UBI: total number of reserved PEBs: 80


[ 12.969696] UBI: number of PEBs reserved for bad PEB handling: 2


[ 12.975738] UBI: max/mean erase counter: 4/2


[ 12.980041] UBI: image sequence number: 855480091


[ 12.984832] usbmon: debugfs is not available


[ 12.989501] ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: OMAP-EHCI Host Controller


[ 12.995391] UBI: background thread "ubi_bgt1d" started, PID 358


[ 13.001647] ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1


[ 13.009521] ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: irq 77, io mem 0x48064800


[ 13.023651] ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004


[ 13.031829] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice


[ 13.037780] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found


[ 13.041687] hub 1-0:1.0: 3 ports detected


[ 13.149932] usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002


[ 13.156799] usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1


[ 13.164093] usb usb1: Product: OMAP-EHCI Host Controller


[ 13.169464] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.27.46-omap1 ehci_hcd


[ 13.175689] usb usb1: SerialNumber: ehci-omap.0


[ 13.180541] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...


[ 13.185729] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage


[ 13.191833] USB Mass Storage support registered.


[ 13.196777] usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual


[ 13.203125] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice


[ 13.227783] input: gpio-keys as /devices/platform/gpio-keys/input/input1


[ 13.313720] input: keypad as /devices/platform/i2c_omap.1/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/1-004a/twl4030_keypad/input/input2


[ 13.377319] input: nub0 as /devices/platform/i2c_omap.3/i2c-adapter/i2c-3/3-0066/input/input3


[ 13.438507] input: nub1 as /devices/platform/i2c_omap.3/i2c-adapter/i2c-3/3-0067/input/input4


[ 13.501220] twl4030_rtc twl4030_rtc: rtc core: registered twl4030_rtc as rtc0


[ 13.512329] bq27x00-battery 3-0055: support ver. 1.1.0 enabled


[ 13.518585] Bluetooth: HCI UART driver ver 2.2


[ 13.523071] Bluetooth: HCI H4 protocol initialized


[ 13.527954] Bluetooth: HCILL protocol initialized


[ 13.532775] hci_h4p hci_h4p: Registering HCI H4P device


[ 13.688659] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: Failed to get debounce clock


[ 13.797241] mmci-omap mmci-omap.1: Failed to get debounce clock


[ 13.798248] mmci-omap mmci-omap.2: Failed to get debounce clock


[ 13.799072] Registered led device: pandora::sd1


[ 13.803955] Registered led device: pandora::sd2


[ 13.808837] Registered led device: pandora::bluetooth


[ 13.814239] Registered led device: pandora::wifi


[ 13.819702] Registered led device: pandora::keypad_bl


[ 13.825164] Registered led device: pandora:ower


[ 13.830627] Registered led device: pandora::charger


[ 13.836059] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid


[ 13.841735] usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver


[ 13.846405] Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.17.


[ 13.853240] ASoC version 0.13.2


[ 13.856658] OMAP3 Pandora SoC init


[ 13.860504] TWL4030 Audio Codec init


[ 13.865692] asoc: twl4030 <-> omap-mcbsp-dai-0 mapping ok


[ 13.872650] asoc: twl4030 <-> omap-mcbsp-dai-1 mapping ok


[ 13.887054] ALSA device list:


[ 13.890045] #0: omap3pandora (twl4030)


[ 13.894317] TCP cubic registered


[ 13.897552] NET: Registered protocol family 17


[ 13.902099] NET: Registered protocol family 15


[ 13.906646] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.11


[ 13.910339] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized


[ 13.915466] Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.6


[ 13.920013] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized


[ 13.925109] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized


[ 13.930358] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized


[ 13.935272] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.10


[ 13.939086] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3


[ 13.944458] Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.2


[ 13.950958] RPC: Registered udp transport module.


[ 13.955749] RPC: Registered tcp transport module.


[ 13.960510] ThumbEE CPU extension supported.


[ 13.964874] Disabling unused clock "sr2_fck"


[ 13.964874] Disabling unused clock "sr1_fck"


[ 13.964904] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_fck"


[ 13.964904] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_fck"


[ 13.964935] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_fck"


[ 13.964935] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_ick"


[ 13.964935] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_ick"


[ 13.964965] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_ick"


[ 13.964965] Disabling unused clock "gpt2_ick"


[ 13.964996] Disabling unused clock "gpt3_ick"


[ 13.964996] Disabling unused clock "gpt4_ick"


[ 13.965026] Disabling unused clock "gpt5_ick"


[ 13.965026] Disabling unused clock "gpt6_ick"


[ 13.965057] Disabling unused clock "gpt7_ick"


[ 13.965057] Disabling unused clock "gpt8_ick"


[ 13.965057] Disabling unused clock "gpt9_ick"


[ 13.965087] Disabling unused clock "wdt3_ick"


[ 13.965087] Disabling unused clock "wdt3_fck"


[ 13.965118] Disabling unused clock "gpio2_dbck"


[ 13.965118] Disabling unused clock "gpio3_dbck"


[ 13.965148] Disabling unused clock "gpio5_dbck"


[ 13.965148] Disabling unused clock "gpt9_fck"


[ 13.965179] Disabling unused clock "gpt8_fck"


[ 13.965179] Disabling unused clock "gpt7_fck"


[ 13.965209] Disabling unused clock "gpt6_fck"


[ 13.965209] Disabling unused clock "gpt5_fck"


[ 13.965240] Disabling unused clock "gpt4_fck"


[ 13.965240] Disabling unused clock "gpt3_fck"


[ 13.965240] Disabling unused clock "gpt2_fck"


[ 13.965270] Disabling unused clock "gpt1_ick"


[ 13.965270] Disabling unused clock "wdt1_ick"


[ 13.965301] Disabling unused clock "wdt2_ick"


[ 13.965301] Disabling unused clock "wdt2_fck"


[ 13.965332] Disabling unused clock "gpio1_dbck"


[ 13.965332] Disabling unused clock "gpt1_fck"


[ 13.965362] Disabling unused clock "cam_ick"


[ 13.965362] Disabling unused clock "cam_mclk"


[ 13.965393] Disabling unused clock "des1_ick"


[ 13.965393] Disabling unused clock "sha11_ick"


[ 13.965393] Disabling unused clock "rng_ick"


[ 13.965423] Disabling unused clock "aes1_ick"


[ 13.965423] Disabling unused clock "ssi_ick"


[ 13.965454] Disabling unused clock "mailboxes_ick"


[ 13.965454] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_ick"


[ 13.965484] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_ick"


[ 13.965484] Disabling unused clock "gpt10_ick"


[ 13.965484] Disabling unused clock "gpt11_ick"


[ 13.965515] Disabling unused clock "uart2_ick"


[ 13.965515] Disabling unused clock "i2c_ick"


[ 13.965545] Disabling unused clock "hdq_ick"


[ 13.965545] Disabling unused clock "mspro_ick"


[ 13.965576] Disabling unused clock "des2_ick"


[ 13.965576] Disabling unused clock "sha12_ick"


[ 13.965606] Disabling unused clock "aes2_ick"


[ 13.965606] Disabling unused clock "icr_ick"


[ 13.965606] Disabling unused clock "pka_ick"


[ 13.965637] Disabling unused clock "ssi_ssr_fck"


[ 13.965637] Disabling unused clock "hdq_fck"


[ 13.965667] Disabling unused clock "uart2_fck"


[ 13.965667] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_fck"


[ 13.965698] Disabling unused clock "mcbsp_fck"


[ 13.965698] Disabling unused clock "i2c_fck"


[ 13.965728] Disabling unused clock "mspro_fck"


[ 13.965728] Disabling unused clock "gpt11_fck"


[ 13.965759] Disabling unused clock "gpt10_fck"


[ 13.965759] Disabling unused clock "iva2_ck"


[ 13.965789] Disabling unused clock "dpll4_m6x2_ck"


[ 13.965789] Disabling unused clock "dpll4_m5x2_ck"


[ 13.965820] Disabling unused clock "dpll3_m3x2_ck"


[ 13.965820] Disabling unused clock "sys_clkout1"


[ 13.965850] VFP support v0.3: implementor 41 architecture 3 part 30 variant c rev 1


[ 14.005676] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 100x30


[ 14.190124] twl4030_rtc twl4030_rtc: setting system clock to 2010-08-27 08:39:30 UTC (1282898370)


[ 14.297454] UBIFS: mounted UBI device 0, volume 0, name "rootfs"


[ 14.303527] UBIFS: file system size: 507838464 bytes (495936 KiB, 484 MiB, 3936 LEBs)


[ 14.311614] UBIFS: journal size: 9033728 bytes (8822 KiB, 8 MiB, 71 LEBs)


[ 14.318969] UBIFS: media format: w4/r0 (latest is w4/r0)


[ 14.324859] UBIFS: default compressor: lzo


[ 14.329010] UBIFS: reserved for root: 0 bytes (0 KiB)


[ 14.335449] VFS: Mounted root (ubifs filesystem).


[ 14.340362] Freeing init memory: 148K


[ 14.717987] mmc0: host does not support reading read-only switch. assuming write-enable.


[ 14.726196] mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address 0007


[ 14.732452] mmcblk0: mmc0:0007 SD16G 15593472KiB


[ 14.737487] mmcblk0: p1


[ 20.784271] ads7846 spi1.0: touchscreen, irq 254


[ 20.789611] input: touchscreen as /devices/platform/omap2_mcspi.1/spi1.0/input/input5


[ 25.644805] FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors


[ 25.649597] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcblk0.


[ 25.891448] FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors


[ 25.896179] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcblk0.


[ 26.761383] NET: Registered protocol family 10


[ 26.991394] UBIFS: mounted UBI device 1, volume 0, name "boot"


[ 26.997344] UBIFS: file system size: 8386560 bytes (8190 KiB, 7 MiB, 65 LEBs)


[ 27.004699] UBIFS: journal size: 1032193 bytes (1008 KiB, 0 MiB, 6 LEBs)


[ 27.011993] UBIFS: media format: w4/r0 (latest is w4/r0)


[ 27.017883] UBIFS: default compressor: lzo


[ 27.022003] UBIFS: reserved for root: 396117 bytes (386 KiB)


[ 27.672729] input: nub0 as /devices/platform/i2c_omap.3/i2c-adapter/i2c-3/3-0066/input/input6


[ 27.914947] input: nub1 as /devices/platform/i2c_omap.3/i2c-adapter/i2c-3/3-0067/input/input7


[ 73.846282] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A


[ 73.968658] aufs test_add:243:mount[1574]: uid/gid/perm /mnt/pnd/gargoyle 1000/1000/0755, 0/0/0777


[ 74.337799] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: MMC IRQ 0x108000 : ERRI DTO


[ 74.337860] mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data


[ 74.425933] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: MMC IRQ 0x108000 : ERRI DTO


[ 74.425994] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 5195522


[ 74.431945] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0p1, logical block 5187330


[ 74.438598] lost page write due to I/O error on mmcblk0p1


[ 74.444335] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: MMC IRQ 0x20018000 : ERRI CTO CERR


[ 74.445404] Spurious DMA IRQ


[ 74.448364] mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command


[ 74.453918] mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data


[ 74.458892] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: MMC IRQ 0x108000 : ERRI DTO


[ 74.458923] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 22930240


[ 74.464965] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0p1, logical block 22922048


[ 74.471710] lost page write due to I/O error on mmcblk0p1


[ 74.477233] aufs au_xino_create:642:mount[1574]: unlink /media/SD1/pandora/appdata/gargoyle/.aufs.xino(-5)


[ 74.710510] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: MMC IRQ 0x18000 : ERRI CTO


[ 74.710601] mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command


[ 74.716186] mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data


[ 74.720977] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 22930240


[ 142.526214] keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 185


[ 142.674407] keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 185

I already formatted it with the panasonic formatter.


Is my SD bad? Does anybody have the same problems? Anybody got any clues? It's not my pandora, as I had it with my first one, as well as with my replacement.


Please?

 

[skeezix]

Very odd; it seems evident that the app is not mounted (ie: no ./run.sh is found, and above that the bit ("wrong fs type") etc.


But how could it be that it mounts once, but not subsequently? Could be a lot of weird little things, but yeah ..


I'd try a fresh reboot, and try putting gargoyle on a fresh other SD card, and see if all is well, then plug in your investigating SD, and se eif the problem exists. That woudl poitn stringly to the SD being funky, somehow.


jeff

 

[laurens]

Meanwhile, back at gp32x.de, WizardStan points me that Prometheus has the same problem. I'll try her solution on monday.

 

[neko]

[ 74.337799] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: MMC IRQ 0x108000 : ERRI DTO


[ 74.337860] mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data


[ 74.425933] mmci-omap mmci-omap.0: MMC IRQ 0x108000 : ERRI DTO


[ 74.425994] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 5195522


[ 74.431945] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0p1, logical block 5187330


[ 74.438598] lost page write due to I/O error on mmcblk0p1

You got a write error on the SD card. Try a different card, or try putting the card in the other SD slot.

 

[skeezix]

Apaprently she did not have a solution, beyond hitting it with a stick a few times and ignoring nesemu


Seems like corrupted SD or something to me :/


jeff

 

[Prometheus]

My issue seemed to purely lie with NesEmu, is probably why, Jeff.

 

[laurens]

Still, it's odd that you have exacly the same prolems, but only with 1 program. I have it with several, but not with all. Oh well, new SD is ordered.

 

[Prometheus]

Good luck, laurens - let me know how it turns out. I've got to admit, I am wondering what happened, with both of us.

 

[joseLuís]

I have a problem with pnds that doesn't unmount when you exit the program. Precisely the ones I did (powder, triplane, etc) I must investigate the cause before I do more pnds.

 

[renegadechic]

i had this problem with mupen64plus after a crash recently. it died and i couldnt reload it, deleted the appdata and now its fine.


the only other pnd i am having issues with is scummvm and i just cant get that to work at all

 

[Prometheus]

^ It's to be expected that that could happen after a crash. I gather that in laurens' case, as in my own, it's happening when an app has not crashed or misbehaved at all.

 

[neko]

^ It's to be expected that that could happen after a crash. I gather that in laurens' case, as in my own, it's happening when an app has not crashed or misbehaved at all.

Laurens dmesg showed I/O errors on the SD card.


In the case of an app crash, the loopback filesystem in /mnt/pnd stays mounted, so it can't mount it again. Open terminal and type 'df' (or cat /proc/mounts) to see if the filesystems are mounted.

 

[Prometheus]

I have a possibly-relevant update to bring to the table (I mentioned this over at GP32X as well). Installing the final release of Hotfix 4 seems to have fixed the very-similar-to-this issue that I'd been having with NesEmu (it now works properly, saves and loads states properly, and always works again the next time, be that during the same session or after a shut-down or reboot). I don't quite understand why this would be the case, but it does appear to have done the trick.

 

[WizardStan]

Possibly some changes to how the pnd_run performs the union mount. Maybe it is more tolerant to whatever was causing it to bail before.

 

[laurens]

You also formatted the hell out of it, and you mentioned you didn't use NesEmu anymore after you formatted it. For me, a couple of formats later and it's not solved, but I'll try the hotfix and report back if it does solve my problem too (formatting it didn't solve my probs). Let's hope it's fixed for me too (even though I have a new SD incoming..)

 

[Prometheus]

Indeed. Though as I said before, it probably only needed one reformatting. Either way, I felt curious for some reason after the new hotfix - hopefully it will also work for you.

 

[laurens]

So, it definately was my sd card. I got another one today, and that does not misbehave. So, for the record: I had a Peak (peakhardware.com) 16 gb class 6 SDHC card, and that gave trouble. All the formatting I did, did not fix it.

 

[skeezix]

I could also see a case where if an appo does not clean up properly (keeps some stuff open), then unmounting may refuse to happen, and running it again.. I forget offhand what could happen, but let us say 'the results are undefined.' ie: If the app forks off a daemon that is still keeping the mounted stuff open, and then the launching app exits and thus the whole pnd tries to unmount, it would go ugly. (ie: This is why some apps that start daemons request the user to keep the terminal window open (as the trigger to keep the pnd alive), or have amonitor-script that watches the daemons and only exits when no client and no daemons are running, etc.)


Thats not what happened here of course, but I could see some obscure cases occuring


jeff