A clear case for a clear case


levi said:
Just wait until some terrorist makes a book bomb and carries it on-board.
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And I had always considered books to be the solution to that problem... all things can be corrupted.
 
There's enough energy in even a smartphone battery to blow a small hole in a plane. This literally solves nothing. Guaranteed they wanted to ban all electronics but only left smartphones because they knew people would revolt if they couldn't get back online the instant the plane touched the ground.
 
well, "thankfully" it's just flights from certain parts of the middle east. but i can imagine going on a (domestic) trip, them changing the rules, and then being stuck with shipping your device on the way back. (they don't want lithium batteries in the checked luggage either.)
 
Klumpen said:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us...ronics-ban-to-all-european-flights-2017-05-08
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This is the goal, only the situation is slowly adapted to make us choose it.
The thing is:
1. Internet becomes actually censored in most countries. Current censorship level of the Internet in "democratic" countries is similar to one of "repressive" countries in early 2000s. Slow evolution of work time allocation makes users prefer government-controlled solutions because they are faster and then possible.
2. Own data storage is inconvenient for government and companies. Government - because they can't propagate lies about their past and companies - because what is in the Network stays there. That's why the political response for "fake news" is always banning and punishment, but never verification and sources - media would loose ability to control if people would start to look for sources.
So they decided to jam the communication channel, but it is not a perfect solution. While inconvenient link won't bubble up in first 6 pages of Google search, it may still be stumbled upon in the Darknet forum. The way is the cloud then, completely controlled data storage, but now the problem is how to make slaves use this new chains? And they go. Any excuse is good.

Last year I was in the airport in Nice. After security control I've seen a few toolboxes abandoned here and there in the middle of departure hall as workers were doing some repairs. Full of hammers, screwdrivers, nuts, bolts, saws, knives, battery-operated drill... Definitely a very high security as for country with constant emergency state :).
 
I have been sound the world a few times. I was never lucky enough to go by ship and actually enjoy the trip. Instead I was always crammed into the flying cattle cars that became so popular, because everything has to happen "right now". Trains and buses really haven't been so pleasant either when I have had long trips on them, so I guess I shouldn't complain. They would probably try to keep me in a closet on the lower decks of a ship.
 
Clear case would be nice. It's pretty!

And those bans are just to "prove" to us how many terrorists there are. The more afraid we are of terrorists the more likely we will be to part with our freedom for protection. Unless we know who the real terrorists are, in that case we would want more freedom so that we are better able to protect ourselves.
 
Bans do very little. In fact there's a ban on murder.

All bans do is hurt law abiding citizens. It makes us into willing victims. Terrorists rarely act out in regions where people can defend themselves. Seriously, it's the same with low level crime. A common street thug is less likely to go after somebody if they have a high chance of fighting back.

Purposely making victims adds fuel to the fire. Media loves fear and so do the governments because knee jerk regulations are the circle of life.

I am just waiting till we're back in a feudalistic system with regulations restricting travel out to other regions, counties or cities. It's only a matter of a time before we're issues colour coded ids and people start being unpersoned.

I just have a vague hope that society implodes before that happens allowing a new renaissance to occur, or at least a revert back to self sufficiency.

But this is just my radical opinion... your miles may vary depending on your trust of goverments.
 
DrHAX said:
Bans do very little. In fact there's a ban on murder.

All bans do is hurt law abiding citizens. It makes us into willing victims.
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Bans also provide a civilised mechanism for the government to indentify and punish antisocial behaviour.

You could build a society where everyone carries a pistol, and shoots anyone they feel has wronged them - but my preference would be for a society with a unified list of crimes, and where chasing robbers was delegated to a specialised group of law-enforcers with better training and equipment than I could ever hope for.

If I violate that ban on murder, then the tax-funded team of law-enforcers (we'll call them 'police') is very likely to chase me down, publicly present evidence of my crime, and lock me up in a nice concrete dungeon for a few decades.
Surely that's better than the your-granny-killed-my-great-uncle-prepare-to-die! feuds of old?

Now, I could certainly wish for better laws, better policing, a better judiciary, and better media coverage of pretty-much everything, but to claim that we'd be better off with anarchy and vigilante justice seems to be mistaking the implementation for the principle.

This ban on batteries on airliners is evidence that the people making the rules are incompetent, but not that the concept of rules is flawed!
 
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