How Do You Pronounce .pnd?


I asked someone from Australia yesterday, and they said they pronounce it "eksy". I think I've heard at least one or two Americans call it "eksy" as well. I just think it's silly, though... it doesn't really fit well in to English pronunciation "rules".

Even though you've defined the definition for .pnd to be p-nnnd, I'm still going to say P N D.. it's just easier for me to pronounce, even if it's longer.
 
Wait, do I have to be like Linus Torvalds and record myself saying it, so we cna have a 'definitive' answer? ha!

Describing the pnd-system to Linux people is a bit hard; they know their system of choice is the bomb (when they're wrong, only FreeBSD's port system is the bomb ;), but it takes a bit of description to realize its a different problem. Package systems like .deb etc are for unpacking a distribution file-set into a OS distribution runtime. A pnd-file is a system for distributing executable packages.

.deb's include dependancy information and such
.pnd's do not

Some other layer on top of pnd could perhaps track dependancies (go ahead, stick pnd's into .debs, see if I care ;)

We do need to revise the PXML.xml and packaging spec; I'm more inclined these days to use iso+zip-with-no-compression instead of iso+appended-PXML-and-icon; this way any number of things could be appended, but still read in plaintext if needed, and zip provides the indexing.

We're not ready yet to tackle the dependancy chain type information (face it, few major packaging systems today do it gracefully, and we are but a small community), but its somethign we can discuss..

jeff
 
skeezix said:
Wait, do I have to be like Linus Torvalds and record myself saying it, so we cna have a 'definitive' answer? ha!


I think that would be appreciated. Then everyone can tell you how wrong your definitive version is... umm...
 
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- GIF: Hard-G "Gif". Jif is either lemon juice or cleaning products (renamed in the UK, but it's still called "Jif" here in Norway, and interestingly it's also called "Vim" in some countries)
- Linus: The man in question is Finnish. AFAIK in Finnish it's pronounced "Leenus".
- Linux: Lih-nux most of the time, but sometimes also Lee-nux. IIRC Linus considered Lih-nux to be closer than Lie-nux to his original pronunciation.
- SQL: S.Q.L.; It is my understanding that the "sequel" pronunciation is a Microsoft artefact.
- EXE: Probably because of my accent, I say "eggsy"!

Of course, in an international environment, it is impossible to have consistent pronunciation due to the plethora of accents involved.
It's far easier to get accuracy and consistency (and hence unambiguity) in text. Which is why it's my favourite method of communication. ;)
 
skeezix said:
I never really nailed it down; I never really had to pronounce it until I was showing my prototype to WizardStan a couple months back, and it popped out of my mouth as ... how to say: "p nnnd".. where 'p' sounds like the p at the end of 'up' and "nnnd" sounds like the end of 'pond'. Like when something has been thrown in the bin and it has been 'binned', this has been 'p'-'inned', yeah, thats not a half bad way of trying to get over what I'm saying and thinking.

folks I know have been using 'pound'; however I often shorten Pandora to Panda and thus to pnd when de-voweled; and I do use the phrase 'pound of flesh' in reference to it when debugging something strange :)

I'm normally pretty consistent, but its vi as "v eye" and emacs as "eeee-max", but SQL is "S" "Q" "L" and very certainly not "sequal".

So I think it depends on the case ;) PND is pee en dee, but .pnd is the sound described above.

You'd think it woud just be a 'pand' file (like 'panned'?), but thats too easy.

So what say .. do we go with an easy to say thing (panned, pound), or with how I've been internalizing it for a couple years ("pooned") :)

jeff
is that copyrighted?
 
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may88 said:
Let's keep the Dutch out of this as that would say l-Ay-nux in this case. Plus they all speak excellent English anyway.
I would say we mostly pronounce it as l-eye-nux (as in line) in English context. And as l-ee-nux (as in lean) or with a short i, lih-nux (as in live) in a Dutch context.

Maybe I pronounce l-Ay-nux different from you, but I haven't heard any Dutch say that yet.

Anyway: Pee N Dee
 
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paulguy said:
I asked someone from Australia yesterday, and they said they pronounce it "eksy". I think I've heard at least one or two Americans call it "eksy" as well. I just think it's silly, though... it doesn't really fit well in to English pronunciation "rules".

It is pronounced eksy because that is how you pronounce the first three letters of the word executable (which is where exe comes from), well by me anyhow.
 
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.PND = Pee ehn dee

It's not a word, it has no vowel.

Neither do "SHY", "HYMN", "RHYTHM", "CRYPT", "MY", "SLY", "SPY", "GYPSY" or "TRYST" etc.etc. Pretty sure they ARE all words though ;)

To me PND is Pee eN Dee.

And EXE is Ecksy or simply "X E" for the reasons many have stated above (executable).
 
iprice said:
Neither do "SHY", "HYMN", "RHYTHM", "CRYPT", "MY", "SLY", "SPY", "GYPSY" or "TRYST" etc.etc. Pretty sure they ARE all words though ;)
Plenty of vowels there, what's your problem with 'Y's?

Back to topic: How about "porned"? Ideally with a nice non-rhotic Brit touch to it: "poahn'd".
 
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iprice said:
Plenty of vowels there, what's your problem with 'Y's?
There are NO vowels in any of those words I mentioned. You do know what vowels are, don't you? A E I O U
and sometimes Y! :)
 
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iprice said:
Plenty of vowels there, what's your problem with 'Y's?
There are NO vowels in any of those words I mentioned. You do know what vowels are, don't you? A E I O U

Funny. In many languages Y is a vowel. I did not know it wasn't in english. Interesting.
 
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B-ZaR said:
iprice said:
Plenty of vowels there, what's your problem with 'Y's?
There are NO vowels in any of those words I mentioned. You do know what vowels are, don't you? A E I O U

Funny. In many languages Y is a vowel. I did not know it wasn't in english. Interesting.
It is.. http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutother/lettery
 
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