krosfyah
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I'm fairly OCD about this, I HATE having icons on my desktop.
Where Do You Want Apps To Show Up By Default? Menu Or Desktop?
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second exodous
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I have to agree with that just because I use either the menu most. The menu is second to the quick-launch for me though, but still not the desktop.Vorporeal said:
I also don't like much on my desktop, and no programs at all. I have things on it temporarily but once every few weeks I do a cleaning and get nearly everything on it put away somewhere.krosfyah said:
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Trevsweb
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16/32gb of apps might get a bit crazy. especially if zebra adventure gets put out of my desktop space 
i love those lil buggers
menus allow the catagorisation of our apps which makes everything a whole lot easier in the long run. as long as we can have shortcuts i will be happy
i love those lil buggersmenus allow the catagorisation of our apps which makes everything a whole lot easier in the long run. as long as we can have shortcuts i will be happy
second exodous
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Thats a horrible way to do things. Programs can only install in 3 places: Pandora, SD1, SD2, and USB media if plugged in. Once again hopefully everything will install through the Ångström repositories or though Craig's repository (read App Store).El Jefe said:
This is talking about installing isn't it? As far as programs installed on a SD card you wouldn't need this, the program on the SD card could be pre-configured to appear on the desktop or the menu though pnd extension.
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laurens
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I think the apps should at least always go into the menu, but depending on user choise ALSO on the desktop. It would be nice that if you insert a card with new apps, you'll get a dialog which ask you in a list with tickboxes which apps you'll want to add to your desktop. This preference should be saved on the SD card, and this list should be editable through a menu.
To me, that sounds like a good solution
Note: haven't read the entire thread, if this suggestion isn't new and someone already proposed it: i'm all in favor
To me, that sounds like a good solution
Note: haven't read the entire thread, if this suggestion isn't new and someone already proposed it: i'm all in favor
gp32rich
Never been accused of being subtle
^thisLaurencevde said:
and this^Near-kun said:
Although I think the SD card should appear on the desktop, kinda like the way things were on Amiga. :wub:
In fact .. I'd like it to run just like Workbench :>
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Categories in Desktop could work very well. Clean, well organised, two-tap launch (Tap[1] Category ----> Tap [2] App).
ex.
_____________________________________________
| |
| |
| Home Games Viewers Homebrew Emulators|
| |
| |
| Setup Vids SD Apps Backup |
| |
| |
| Editors Photos Tools etc etc |
| |
|_____________________________________________|
Up there, "Home" is not "home_dir" but a "Home" button, also present under each category, to take you back to Desktop/Categories.
Trip
Sorry, but I suck at explaining stuff :P
torpor said:
I normally don't have anything at all on my desktop, but we have to bear in mind that this is a portable device and isn't used in exactly the same way as a desktop computer.
mindlord said:
I'd go with these ideas myself.Vorporeal said:
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second exodous
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I am willing to give Skeezixs' pnd-file placement out, no matter what it is. I can only really judge off of things I've tried. Who knows, it might work out really well. For right now I just don't like desktop launchers, a quick launch seconding on the tool bar would be ok to put things, but I don't like them on the desktop. Like I said though, I'll try anything.
In the Gnome version of Sabayon when you plug anything in it gets a little icon on the toolbar lower right. I kinda liked that, if pnd-file did that I would like it better than just being a launch icon on the desktop.
Everything should go to the menu though, maybe give the programs that are on the SD and not installed alongside the OS should have a different colour font/name. Or, in the menu have a section at the top that just shows what's on the SD card.
In the Gnome version of Sabayon when you plug anything in it gets a little icon on the toolbar lower right. I kinda liked that, if pnd-file did that I would like it better than just being a launch icon on the desktop.
Everything should go to the menu though, maybe give the programs that are on the SD and not installed alongside the OS should have a different colour font/name. Or, in the menu have a section at the top that just shows what's on the SD card.
dflemstr
It's a ball.
You could always place them in *both* locations!
No, j/k
But an alternative would be this:
- The PND service creates .desktop files in a known location
- If no symlink exists on the desktop or in a menu, a symlink is created in the menu pointing to the actual .desktop file
- The user can drag-drop the symlink from the menu onto the desktop (or copy it or whatever)
- You configure the GUI to not show broken symlinks
- So when the SD card is ejected, the .desktop files are removed, all of the symlinks get broken, and "disappear".
- When the SD card is reinserted, the .desktop files are generated again, and the symlinks are whole again. Poof, you get back your shortcuts the way they were.
User experience:
- Shortcuts will be created int he menu by default
- They can be dragged to any location you want
- They disappear when you eject an SD card, and reappear when the card is reinserted.
No, j/k
But an alternative would be this:
- The PND service creates .desktop files in a known location
- If no symlink exists on the desktop or in a menu, a symlink is created in the menu pointing to the actual .desktop file
- The user can drag-drop the symlink from the menu onto the desktop (or copy it or whatever)
- You configure the GUI to not show broken symlinks
- So when the SD card is ejected, the .desktop files are removed, all of the symlinks get broken, and "disappear".
- When the SD card is reinserted, the .desktop files are generated again, and the symlinks are whole again. Poof, you get back your shortcuts the way they were.
User experience:
- Shortcuts will be created int he menu by default
- They can be dragged to any location you want
- They disappear when you eject an SD card, and reappear when the card is reinserted.
cosurgi
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dflemstr said:You could always place them in *both* locations!
Yeah, BOTH!
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second exodous
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Why not just have the PND method of sorting alert the system that there are programs/files on the card and let PND sort them out how you pre-configured these files to go in a setup?
On the desktop
and/or in a specific desktop
and/or in the menu
and/or in a quick-launch area
and/or just in the SD directory.
This should not be configured every time, or be configured for each SD card. PND should have a control panel that you tell it to put what kind of objects on a SD card where.
For example: all video files (.avi,.mkv, .mpg, ect.) go on the desktop and all programs go in the menu. This way no matter what is on the card things appear where you want them to. This would be though a control panel for PND and affects PND system wide.
This would also be handy for sharing SD cards with other users, the way you want everything set up is where you want it no matter who's card it is.
On the desktop
and/or in a specific desktop
and/or in the menu
and/or in a quick-launch area
and/or just in the SD directory.
This should not be configured every time, or be configured for each SD card. PND should have a control panel that you tell it to put what kind of objects on a SD card where.
For example: all video files (.avi,.mkv, .mpg, ect.) go on the desktop and all programs go in the menu. This way no matter what is on the card things appear where you want them to. This would be though a control panel for PND and affects PND system wide.
This would also be handy for sharing SD cards with other users, the way you want everything set up is where you want it no matter who's card it is.
dflemstr
It's a ball.
Send your patch to skeezix and he'll look into it!second exodous said:
No but seriously, the system has to be *simple* and that means not rebuilding the whole XFCE menu system from scratch.
Also, my proposed system above does everything that your proposed system does, but I don't need a control panel.
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second exodous
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Your system has much more work involved for the user, my system is set-up-once-and-forget. You wouldn't need to re-write anything in XFCE to do what I proposed, as long as the place exists a program could put files where ever you want. It might be out of the scope of PND, it was just an idea.dflemstr said:Send your patch to skeezix and he'll look into it!second exodous said:
No but seriously, the system has to be *simple* and that means not rebuilding the whole XFCE menu system from scratch.
Also, my proposed system above does everything that your proposed system does, but I don't need a control panel.
I'll try out PND no matter what it is so I'm just suggesting things.
EDIT: I just realized that what I proposed is out of the scope of PND, with what I proposed you wouldn't need any PND files on the SD card, it would be set up on the system and then work on every card no matter if it had ever touched a Pandora before. So ignore me. Project for another day.
I did not see this, Skeezix must have put that in after I read it, strange that it doesn't say he edited it. That sounds perfect.ricki said:That sounds perfect for meskeezix said:
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dflemstr
It's a ball.
How so?second exodous said:
Dragging and dropping an icon seems much easier than opening a control panel imo.
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second exodous
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Control panel set up once sorts every card ever plugged into your Pandora forever.dflemstr said:
Dragging and dropping for every single program on every single SD that you put into your Pandora.
Which is more work?
Edit: not trying to be rude or start flame war, just think my idea sounds like less work. However, it's not really PND, it's a completely new program.
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peca
Active Member
+1skeezix said:
Or some other way that let me organize PND file into categories, menu, submenu, desktop and desktop folders. But basically, if I have lot of PNDs, then I like them organized in menu. If just a few of them, then let them sit on desktop.
EDIT: Vote for "in menu by categories". If I like'em on desktop, I can switch to simple launcher.
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Dead1nside
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I'll say again that it should always be the user's choice of where something'll go, anything should be able to be changed but the user should be able to choose their preference. It should always populate the menu I think, unless the user specifies otherwise.
WizardStan
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Regardless of whether the user gets a choice or not, they still need to do something by default if the user hasn't made any choices yet. Discuss options later, we're discussing what to do by default.Dead1nside said:
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