Things that are in the P1 we dont want/need for P2

[ZXDunny]

I'd like to echo Slaeshjag's comment about how he'd like everything the P1 has, but improved.


That said, there are some things I can do without - things I never use, and things that I think are detrimental to the Pandora as a whole:


1. Touchscreen


2. Wifi


3. Craig


4. Three-state power button


D.

 

[Caine]

You want WiFi to be removed? I use a wired network whenever available, but in the train and/or airport the WiFi is quite handy.

 

[ZXDunny]

You want WiFi to be removed? I use a wired network whenever available, but in the train and/or airport the WiFi is quite handy.

These are just the things that I personally either never use or feel hold no (or a negative) benefit - others may well find that they have been of benefit. I don't find the Pandora to be at all comfortable to browse the web on (it's way too slow to run a decent browser) and the keyboard is not suitable for typing on for say, IRC or whatever... So Wifi is pretty redundant here, and the first thing I do on installing a new firmware is to disable it and remove the icons from the taskbar (I actually remove all the icons barring pandora menu, battery status and clock).


D.

 

[slaeshjag]

I like the WiFi-feature. Since I got my pandora, I have yet to use its SD-cards in another computer or connecting it via the USB OTG port. I used it ocasionally for web-browsing, and it was really handy for IRC over SSH.


I guess I've been lucky with my router, I can get a steady 500 kB/s over the WiFi.

 

[McLovin]

i wouldn't miss bluetooth

 

[Bosbeetle]

i wouldn't miss bluetooth

I would since I use it to thether my phone...

 

[Hitnrun]

Looks like we have an agreement: Pandora is perfect. For the v2 we only want more memory, faster processor and bigger screen.

 

[fusion_power]

Pandora 1 has a microphone but was it ever used in any app? I naver found out how to even enable it or test it (without Terminal typing stuff). I guess there is just no app that makes usage of the Pandora Mic so I guess we don't need one in Pandora 2.

 

[kuru]

Pandora 1 has a microphone but was it ever used in any app? I naver found out how to even enable it or test it (without Terminal typing stuff). I guess there is just no app that makes usage of the Pandora Mic so I guess we don't need one in Pandora 2.

I have successfully tested the mic using Audacity. Needs just a little configuration of the app's options to work, no fussing around with the shell.
The mic's quality is great.

 

[Binky]

Looks like we have an agreement: Pandora is perfect. For the v2 we only want more memory, faster processor and bigger screen.

Maybe a microSD slot behind the battery (no problems with unmounting during low power mode)


Faster SD R/W speeds


Better wifi


Tougher case


Leave mic, why bother to take it out?


IR transceiver would be nice (probably cheap too) - good for talking to old electronic gadgets - remote control (in either direction)


I would also like DAB/DVB and GPS


Some people also want HSPDA, ATSC compass, gyro, accelerometer


How about an extra layer that users could fit under the main PCB, above the battery (with a case extender) with all that stuff on

 

[Prometheus]

Maybe a microSD slot behind the battery (no problems with unmounting during low power mode)

This. Drop the NAND and go with this.


Supply a small card as standard, and then users who need more space for the OS can provide a bigger one if they need it.

 

[mcobit]

I wonder if the nand can be discarded so easily, as it is part of the soc, or isn't it?


Edit: Anyway... +1

 

[Fluff]

There isn't a single thing in the Pandora that isn't utilized by someone.


It just needs to be improved upon in some areas.

 

[Linux-SWAT]

I'm ok with all the hardware.


I think i use all.

 

[FaeMinx]

Drop the keymat for one that allows backlighting... and isn't so shiny. It looks pretty, but trying to find an alternate symbol if you haven't memorized them can be a real pain with all those reflective highlights.


I certainly would use the mic if someone wrote some dictaphone software that could be used with the lid closed and operated via the shoulder buttons. In fact, I would *love* it if someone did this.


I've always wanted a dictaphone... I don't see why the Pandora couldn't be turned into a first class if not superior alternative.


I haven't used bluetooth yet, but I intend to one day...


wifi for me sucks. If it stays as is, I wouldn't miss it in P2.


I think we should keep the nand, but use it for something else instead of for the Primary OS. internal MicroSD is the way to go.


@ZXDunny: Lose the touchscreen?!! That's Madness! o.o

 

[slaeshjag]

I wonder if the nand can be discarded so easily, as it is part of the soc, or isn't it?


Edit: Anyway... +1

Nope, the NAND sits in the same chip as RAM, and there's NAND-less variants of that chip available.

 

[asimov-solensan]

I wouldn't have bought a pandora without wifi, even as slow as it is I use it everyday for browsing and mail.


I think that microphone would be more intersting if a front camera was added, enabling the option of video chat. I mean I can't think in any application that needs only the mic.


I like a lot the idea of having an internal, replacable card as hard drive. Also I think it's very useful a keyboard with some kind of backlight.

 

[WizardStan]

The problem with dropping the NAND is that you would then have to get storage some other way. The current OMAP has 3 SD buses, but the third one is used by the wifi chip. It would need some rejiggering, a different wifi chip probably, unless the OMAP4/5/99 has 4 SD buses.

 

[Binky]

The problem with dropping the NAND is that you would then have to get storage some other way. The current OMAP has 3 SD buses, but the third one is used by the wifi chip. It would need some rejiggering, a different wifi chip probably, unless the OMAP4/5/99 has 4 SD buses.

How much space/complexity/loss of performance would doing it over USB involve?

 

[WizardStan]

Again, depends entirely on the future SoC used. The OMAP3 has 2 USB, so doing it over USB would require basically building a hub into it or removing one of the two USB ports. If later OMAPs have a 3rd USB then there's no problem, same as if it had 4 SD.