Wow. And here I thought you actually had good intent. Guess it's par for the course considering how much 'backstabbing' you get in this slime-infested 'huckster retro scene'.
Whatever it takes to pay off that debt that Craigix sattled you with, eh? Is this how the creator of the Pyra/OpenPandora is going to treat opensource authors by openly siding against them and siding with the low-down shady two-bit salesmen instead? Don't be surprised if you won't get support then for your handheld projects.
Know what's so sad about all this? All people will take from this, is that open source software is a sure fire way to get abused and taken advantage of by low-down shady entrepreneurs. So if you want the well to dry up, by all means continue on this parasitic path, but you'll happen to find that respect and support is a two-way street. You don't show any of it to others, you won't get any back either.
I have heard from RetroBit that the profit share autechre would like to get per sold unit was very high - even higher than anything a license holder for the game gets and higher than the profit they make themselves with the unit.
So yeah, they would've had to increase the price to an amount that no one buys it anymore.
Complete nonsense, and you had heard wrong or weren't updated then since that was not the final percentage that they negotiated on, and we were willing to take a meagre percentage, PROVIDED they obliged by the GPLv3. Which they have no interest in doing as it transpires, just like all the rest.
And the minute it appeared that they might have to uphold an anti-TIVOization clause in the GPLv3 and that no amount of money was going to make me look the other way and break our own license, they were out anyway. None of you have good intent in the end anyway, it's all about abusing the host.
Corporate usage of RetroArch is not going to be 'lock it down and have nobody tinker with it'. If you want that, you need to find yourself another project that doesn't have anti-TIVOization rules in place. GPLv3 was designed to ensure consumers and techies still have that right, and that hardware is not a black box they cannot tinker with.
I'm so sorry that some meagre percentages are not enough to basically nullify and void the rights of hundreds of contributors to our project. Golly gee, that must make me such a bad person, that I am not willing to take clear anti-TIVOization clauses in a license and go 'hey, RetroBit guy wants to pay me royalties, so I better pretend like those don't exist, eh?'.
I'm sorry, I have integrity and I'm not screwing over my teammembers. That is why despite all the low-grade slander and demonization that is done, people ultimately respect and trust me. If you want to use RetroArch, you have to respect and follow the rules the GPLv3 sets forth. If a company cannot do that or is unwilling to do that, tough luck. No amount of money offered can change the fact they need to follow these rules.
If it can't be released legally for a reasonable price, they'll scrap it
Again, that is you releasing more FUD. They simply don't want to follow standard GPL version 3 license stipulations. It has nothing to do with a 'reasonable price' or 'released legally', they simply cannot accept that you cannot take a codebase that hundreds of contributors contributed code to, and then 'gut' certain crucial parts of that license like anti-TIVOization. Simply put, you cannot lock up a codebase that was epxressly made to right the wrongs of TIVO devices that would take the Linux kernel and then lock it up again so you couldn't modify it. That is exactly what GPLv3 is designed to combat.
So while they want to drink from the deep well of open source and view it as a profit center where you don't have to kick anything downstream to the actual creators, they don't want the necessary responsibilities or license stipulations that ensures everything remains free and nobody can gain an unfair advantage. Typical, but GPL was not designed to please parasitic corporate usage like this, and no amount of money is going to turn it into BSD-lite either.
As it is, Retro Bit's Super Retro Cade is already violating the GPLv3's anti-TIVOization clauses by basically being a TIVO-ized box. And they already started selling this since December. You cannot right a wrong after it has already been perpetrated. And what certainly does NOT make you look better is if despite all that has went on, you continue telegraphing to everybody you are not willing to do it right and you just look at these projects as a meal ticket, and not like equal opportunity partners.
While MAME has been made open for commercial usage a few years ago, most of the systems use an older MAME version which is NOT licensed to be used commercially.
That's why we (yes, I'll help with the testing) are now looking into using a more recent version of MAME. While these have become more accurate and therefore slower on older systems, it could be that the games RetroBit licensed would still be fast enough.
We'll check that.
Hate to burst your bubble. but that is never going to run acceptable on the crap hardware they have. It won't even run acceptable on a desktop-class PC.
Genesis is an interesting thing.
While autechre claims it can't licensed, there are different views about that.
On the contrary, I always send people Ekeeke's way if/when they want to make some license sale. So don't start lying now to make yourself look better.
Not that it matters since none of you who used this software and started selling it in this capacity ever cut him a license deal to begin with, so it's all hypotheticals and just trying to correct some window dressing after you have already started the initial sale. It's scummy business and you know it.
There's an interesting post here on the GIT of Genesis-GX:
https://github.com/ekeeke/Genesis-Plus-GX/issues/111
What kind of nonsense is this? Why do you keep bringing back old topics that is old water under the bridge and stuff that isn't even relevant to the conversation just in order to spread more FUD?
You don't even know what you're talking about or how these things tie together in the first place.
I repeat again, I have always tried to send people ekeeke's way in case he wanted to make a license sale. But note, that is not what you and other entrepreneurs did in the first place - you straight up took that software in its non-commercial form without paying so much as a dime for it.
Don't try to create attack vectors here just to deflect from the actual wrongdoing you are committing, especially when those attack vectors lead to nowhere and it's simply some ignorant person coming in from the outside without bothering to do any research. We have good amicable relations with Ekeeke, and I defended him against similar profiteering way back in 2011.
On the other side, Sega has also released classic MegaDrive games running on Android (using an emulator).
As RetroBit is working together with Sega, it could also be possible they can use this emulator.
I can even imagine that it's a licensed version of Genesis Plus GX
It isn't a 'licensed version' of Genesis Plus GX and I know that for a fact, don't talk on subject matters you have zero understanding of.
And that Android-based Genesis emulator has been almost universally panned by now, by all means if they want the quality of their emulation even worse, they should totally go and do that. A Unity-based C# Genesis emulator must run great on cheap ARM hardware!
SNES will be removed with the next version of the RetroCade until a solution is found.
Solutions RetroBit are currently thinking of is licensing higan (which can be licensed) and either using a faster CPU with future multigameconsole-releases or looking for a paid developer who will write a new emulator. Their games don't need any custom or special chips emulation, so basic SNES emulation would be enough.
AFAIK they also wanted to ask the author of Higan whether he would be willing to make higan playable (sacrificing accuracy) as a paid job.
Same scenario as with MAME, that will never run acceptably.
However, they all tried to offer LEGAL emulation to normal non-techy customers.
There was nothing "legal" about the emulation they provided, and neither is the Time Machine device you are selling right now. It is LITERALLY a Raspberry Pi 3 thrown into a joystick case. Zero software engineering by those 1 to 10 people working in a 'store'. What it is, quite clearly, is parasitism and shady business to the nth degree.
If you want to read some controverse stuff about autechren
It's quite embarrassing when a guy from Germany can't write proper English. And what's with the misspelling all the time of a nickname?
These are IRC logs from stuff he posted there. You might see him in a different light now.
So now you're resorting to unsubstantiated slander and spreading FUD as well just to try to demonize me? Wow.
You turned out to be shadier and more lowdown than I thought. Guess it's apparent which side you are on - the shady vulture low-down entrepreneur, not the actual creators.
Honestly dude, don't do this whole 'playing to your audience' and all this deflection and scapegoating. This doesn't make you look better, if anything, it makes it seem like you have something to hide and to overcompensate you need to throw the other person's character into doubt.
Forget you and me ever talked amicably, and you can forget about any support for the Pyra or OpenPandora handhelds now. I am dropping support for that like a stone.
Okay, I'll have to leave now, will post more about the TimeMachine later.
Yeah, wonder what kind of crap you can spin around that. Not that it matters since I won't be around to read it anyway. Tell your fans whatever yarn or fantasy they want to hear, there is no way in Hell that Snes9x, Final Burn Alpha, or any old MAME core can be 'licensed', it cannot be sold, and they sure as hell did not pay Ekeeke a dime for Genesis Plus GX.
I want nothing to do with you anymore considering the kind of character you have shown to the entire world you are. As if it isn't bad enough the 'aloof' way you present this crap, you resort to demonization and unsubstantiated slander as well. I could say some choice words but I think it's best for all involved if I just leave instead since it's pretty apparent you lack class and character and are mainly concerned about parasitizing and profiting off projects that do not want it, and just because 'you want to make money' with your shady biz partners.
You have learned nothing from that article, you don't care to respect the actual creators or make them feel comfortable with your selling antics, and you are unwilling to learn anything either since you are a mirror image of these shady crony entrepreneurs. I guess it was not only Craigix that lacked integrity in the end. Consider this the last time you and me ever talk again, as I have seen your true character emerge now.
