Pyra as smartphone replacement

trix

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So I know this has been discussed before, but all previous discussions of this type that I could find were fairly old and speculative. Now that Pyra is close enough to release that most details are unlikely to change, this seems like a good time to bring this discussion back.

Considering I've decided the Pyra is going to be my smartphone, and since I don't need TWO pocket computers, I'm wondering what the chances are of having calls and texts working (calls via bluetooth earpiece) by the time my Pyra is delivered?

I mean, being standard Debian, I'm sure I could make it work with VOIP over the 4G modem, which I suppose could hold me over awhile, but I'd much prefer to be able to send and receive calls directly with my normal phone number like a real phone. I'm quite sure this will happen eventually, as I've been around long enough to have seen how thoroughly this community pushed the Pandora to do pretty much everything theoretically possible for it to do (and then some! Diablo 2! StarCraft! etc!), but my decade-old smartphone is barely alive and barely functional and bound to break down entirely any day now. I'm hoping to receive a Pyra that I can immediately and completely replace my phone with.

I'm also wondering if we'll eventually get some sort of voice AI, like Siri or Alexa, where I can verbally tell it to set an alarm or ask it when Kwik Trip closes today or ask it for directions to the nearest Denny's. I know Siri and Alexa specifically wont work (and that's GOOD), but something like Mycroft maybe? I vaguely recall a discussion on this subject before as well, but I was unable to find it.
 

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I'm afraid to ask, but what's your order number? If you're in the first batch I'd assume the answer will be absolutely not, but it may not take long - I'm really not sure what the state of the art is on that front.

As for it ever having voice AI, I really don't see the point when it has a full keyboard. Maybe it'd be easier for people not used to using a keyboard, especially one that small, but most of us here have used the Pandora so should be happy with an even better keyboard. I mean I'm surprised I haven't yet come across an open source project trying to put that kind of thing on linux (at least in its GNU flavours), but there you go.
 

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Well I just finally got around to placing my Pyra pre-order a few days ago (was waiting for xmas bonus) so I'm definitely not first batch this time around.

As for the point of voice assistant, besides the obvious convenience factor (saying "set an alarm for 10am" is much quicker than opening the program and setting it manually), there's a lot of times I use my phone's virtual assistant while driving. Especially stuff that would take awhile to look up, like asking for directions to "the nearest gas station" without knowing which gas station is actually closest. I often ask it things like "what are some restaurants that are open at 11pm" and pick one from a list, or (again while driving) saying things like "how long would it take to drive to UW Credit Union from here?"

Basically, there's a TON of things I use it for that are far more convenient to verbally ask than manually look it up. That said, I can always just hang on to my current smartphone and have it permanently plugged into my car specifically for that. The battery on it dies within 5 minutes of being unplugged (the phone is over 10 years old after all), but if I leave it in my car 24/7 that wouldn't be an issue.
 

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Mycroft should work. It runs on Raspberry Pi and that's armhf like the Pyra. It likely won't be able to use the GPS without a lot of tweaking though.
 

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Ah, that's the Apache licensed project I was overlooking. I'm slightly surprised it can run it's RNN on something like the RPi, although it's fair to say that the RPi 4 is rather more overpowered than the old RPi 2, and stuff like the Pyra. We'll see though.
 

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Why a Pyra instead of a Librem5 or PinePhone?
Strange question to ask someone on these forums... but the answer is because I want to do more than a phone can do.

Currently I carry my Pandora and my smartphone everywhere and use both a ton every day for years and years. With a Pyra, I am hoping to only carry the one device, do as much smartphone stuff as I can on it, and have a more powerful, upgrade-able, do-everything Pandora-like computer.

To actually list the things I do on my Pandora and/or the things I am likely to do on my Pyra would require a much larger post.
 

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Strange question to ask someone on these forums... but the answer is because I want to do more than a phone can do.

Currently I carry my Pandora and my smartphone everywhere and use both a ton every day for years and years. With a Pyra, I am hoping to only carry the one device, do as much smartphone stuff as I can on it, and have a more powerful, upgrade-able, do-everything Pandora-like computer.

To actually list the things I do on my Pandora and/or the things I am likely to do on my Pyra would require a much larger post.
Let me do another question: What can a Pyra do that a phone can't? Aside of the keyboard, of course.
 

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Let me do another question: What can a Pyra do that a phone can't? Aside of the keyboard, of course.
Actually, my phone has a keyboard. Planet Computers Cosmo. I can even 10 finger touch type on it fairly well. It is a great phone. It is still pretty much just a really fancy Android phone though.

My Pyra is a completely different animal. Real Linux, real computer, up to five terabytes in a pocket, nubs, game controls, shoulder buttons, real games not phone store junk, emulation, music, videos, tinkering. I understand my purpose and the Pyra's just fine. If you don't get it, that's okay.
 
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