Our New Machine, Pandora

[prairiefire]

whoa. looks real slick. I like the idea of merging communities. It wouldn't be without its share of headaches trying to figure out what is best for a device like the craiginator, but having expertise already here for the gaming side of things and merging with some pmp/pda expertise would be cool. This could also immediately broaden the amount of customers wanting to buy.

 

[Exophase]

128MB builtin flash for this kind of thing might be a lot to ask for of a device that (as far as we know) hasn't announced any user specific builtin persistent memory. It'd be nice to have available though.

 

[kanzlr]

too bad the new machine won't have bluetooth. so i still have to get a n800 alongside it, to surf on the train via bluetooth+umts phone...too bad. but seeing openTTD on the n800 makes me happy

 

[gaterooze]

Er... Bluetooth dongle? Why get a whole new device when you can just add Bluetooth to this yourself?

 

[atomicthumbs]

Er... Bluetooth dongle? Why get a whole new device when you can just add Bluetooth to this yourself?

And a remote!

 

[javaJake]

whoa. looks real slick. I like the idea of merging communities. It wouldn't be without its share of headaches trying to figure out what is best for a device like the craiginator, but having expertise already here for the gaming side of things and merging with some pmp/pda expertise would be cool. This could also immediately broaden the amount of customers wanting to buy.

Agreed, however, it depends on how much the communities actually merge. All words and no actions are worthless. Big ideas like this, even if they are praised, often fall flat when people actually have to do something.

 

[Squidge]

too bad the new machine won't have bluetooth. so i still have to get a n800 alongside it, to surf on the train via bluetooth+umts phone...too bad. but seeing openTTD on the n800 makes me happy

I would have thought a bluetooth usb dongle would be cheaper than an n800

Mweston and CraigX should be thinking hard about whether they want their device to ship with an open-source, 800x480-optimized, ARM-optimized OS complete with X Server, debian package management, ARMEL eabi, internationalization, ready-to-go tools and scads of applications "out of the box"... or not.

I'd say it's more a Craigix decision, as mweston is the hardware designer guy

 

[kanzlr]

too bad the new machine won't have bluetooth. so i still have to get a n800 alongside it, to surf on the train via bluetooth+umts phone...too bad. but seeing openTTD on the n800 makes me happy

I would have thought a bluetooth usb dongle would be cheaper than an n800



of course! but somehow i doubt that the integration would be as slick.
if there is no standard bluetooth gui integrated, every app has to implement its own. have you tried usb bluetooth with the zaurus? its a pain. different stacks, different GUIs, etc.

If bluetooth hardware is left out for cost reasons (actually i think its quite cheap, but nonetheless) thats fine, but it would be nice if the kernel supports different usb bluetooth sticks and maybe sdio bluetooth cards in its default configuration. also, a default lib and maybe a default gui would be nice to have a slick user experience.

I.e. it would be nice if, whenever i want to use an internet connection, i can choose between wifi and bluetooth and have both preconfigured with a coupled bluetooth phone or a list of preconfigured access points, etc.

If BT was integrated from the start, i think these things would be a given, if not, someone has to hack it/build it (hm...why not...me...hm...) but it woulnd't be standard.
So i think when it comes to internet, i bet the n800 will be the better experience at least for a while.

It's really not a matter of device cost. It' just that i dont want to carry three devices every day
The n800 is just a bit more than € 200,-- (ok ok, bluetooth sticks go for € 5,- :blink: )

 

[efegea]

too bad the new machine won't have bluetooth. so i still have to get a n800 alongside it, to surf on the train via bluetooth+umts phone...too bad. but seeing openTTD on the n800 makes me happy

I would have thought a bluetooth usb dongle would be cheaper than an n800



of course! but somehow i doubt that the integration would be as slick.
if there is no standard bluetooth gui integrated, every app has to implement its own. have you tried usb bluetooth with the zaurus? its a pain. different stacks, different GUIs, etc.

If bluetooth hardware is left out for cost reasons (actually i think its quite cheap, but nonetheless) thats fine, but it would be nice if the kernel supports different usb bluetooth sticks and maybe sdio bluetooth cards in its default configuration. also, a default lib and maybe a default gui would be nice to have a slick user experience.

I.e. it would be nice if, whenever i want to use an internet connection, i can choose between wifi and bluetooth and have both preconfigured with a coupled bluetooth phone or a list of preconfigured access points, etc.

If BT was integrated from the start, i think these things would be a given, if not, someone has to hack it/build it (hm...why not...me...hm...) but it woulnd't be standard.
So i think when it comes to internet, i bet the n800 will be the better experience at least for a while.

It's really not a matter of device cost. It' just that i dont want to carry three devices every day
The n800 is just a bit more than € 200,-- (ok ok, bluetooth sticks go for € 5,- :blink: )


Linux has only one standard stack, bluez, and for GUIs: what's the problem of choosing the one you like more?

 

[Tobriand]

Furthermore, how precisely do you pre-configure access points? I mean, they change wherever you are. It's not like there are any that you just know are going to be there wherever you are - and if there are, then they should show up, you'd think.

 

[kanzlr]

there are only three.
the one at home, the one at work, the one at our house in the countryside

the thing with various guis is that if i play a multiplayer game and have no connection, a window appears, if i want to connect by wifi or by bluetooth. and i choose the one i want. independent of the app/game i use. this should be a standard provided by the default system. like the connection dialogue on a Nokia S60 phone: whenever a network connection is needed, the exact same dialogue pops up. ie. a list of network profiles/currently available access points.

If thats not available, every developer wanting to support network play has to have his own gui for this, check for the connection, etc.

somehow i think i am not really explaining my thoughts clearly enough

 

[chris_r]

Well the end of the week is rolling in. Are we going to see anything in our post tomorrow?

 

[Null]

Well the end of the week is rolling in. Are we going to see anything in our post tomorrow?

Yes, junk mail or some kind of bill.

 

[Tobriand]

To be fair, it could be delivered Saturday; there is *some* weekend post.

Plus I imagine the x-mas postal service is getting in the way at the moment anyway. It's starting to get to the "send lots of cards" time of year for people who send everyone they know cards, and that means royal Mail tend to get a touch slower...

Fingers crossed though

 

[craigix]

Things are happening, although nothing will arrive until next week. Then there should be some rather interesting forum activity!

 

[Alex.]

Awesome news Craig, this is excellent to follow

 

[MWeston]

Well, it has been several weeks of promises that end up with let downs and delays, but that is over now. What we need to give first looks is finally ready. I am proud to say that information is finally going to be available next week!

 

[Yrx]

That's really cool.

By the way, MWeston, what does your name stand for? I keep thinking of instrument maker Meinl Weston whenever I see it, lol.

 

[MWeston]

It's just my name M = Michael

Sorry, no instrument making here, but I do play the drums. Nothing cures a little stress like blasting out some hard core metal at 220 bpm!

 

[Rivroner]

Next week menas before Dec 16 07'? Thanks