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http://bluwiki.com/go/CraiginatorTainek said:Prehaps somebody whos on the ball could create a wiki page/FAQ of all the known information on the new console?
(or point me to one if such exists)
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argor said:http://bluwiki.com/go/CraiginatorTainek said:Prehaps somebody whos on the ball could create a wiki page/FAQ of all the known information on the new console?
(or point me to one if such exists
cheers, exactly what i was looking for
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atomicthumbs
I am the king of the collectors, with hospital bed
Tainek said:argor said:http://bluwiki.com/go/CraiginatorTainek said:Prehaps somebody whos on the ball could create a wiki page/FAQ of all the known information on the new console?
(or point me to one if such exists
cheers, exactly what i was looking for
You're welcome
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Finding data on TI's OMAP 3430 power consumption isn't easy. I just get tidbits like
"The Cortex-A8 processor was publicly launched at the end of 2005, TI introduced the OMAP 3 platform in 2006."
"The CortexTM-A8 superscalar microprocessor core, delivers 3X more performance than the ARM11 core used in OMAP 2 processors."
Here's the horses mouth:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbu...her+OT+omap3430
I've only seen one reference to ARM Cortex A8 power draw and that was 300mw at an unspecified speed.
Remember that the OMAP 3430 is a SOC with dynamic clocking for both the cpu and dsp, so there's no fixed power drain. If the device is 'on' but sitting in a menu the 3430 could be drawing almost nothing, spending most of its time in a low power 'near sleep' mode. So devs looking to write stuff for craigulator should make things event driven, minimize unneeded loops and eyecandy animations, then it should charge just fine from usb if you're not actively playing anything...
Some reading on OMAP 2420 management is here
http://www.slideshare.net/igor_stoppa_noki...nternet-tablets
"The Cortex-A8 processor was publicly launched at the end of 2005, TI introduced the OMAP 3 platform in 2006."
"The CortexTM-A8 superscalar microprocessor core, delivers 3X more performance than the ARM11 core used in OMAP 2 processors."
Here's the horses mouth:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbu...her+OT+omap3430
I've only seen one reference to ARM Cortex A8 power draw and that was 300mw at an unspecified speed.
Remember that the OMAP 3430 is a SOC with dynamic clocking for both the cpu and dsp, so there's no fixed power drain. If the device is 'on' but sitting in a menu the 3430 could be drawing almost nothing, spending most of its time in a low power 'near sleep' mode. So devs looking to write stuff for craigulator should make things event driven, minimize unneeded loops and eyecandy animations, then it should charge just fine from usb if you're not actively playing anything...
Some reading on OMAP 2420 management is here
http://www.slideshare.net/igor_stoppa_noki...nternet-tablets
Squidge
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I'd expect that Linux would do all the power management for us - ie, when a task isn't actively running, it runs in slow or sleep mode.
The question would be how fast it could switch from "sleep" to "fully awake". Eg. If I need to wait 300us per frame, is the "awake->sleep->awake" latency too much to get that kind of timing? Or do I need to busy-loop?
The question would be how fast it could switch from "sleep" to "fully awake". Eg. If I need to wait 300us per frame, is the "awake->sleep->awake" latency too much to get that kind of timing? Or do I need to busy-loop?
atomicthumbs
I am the king of the collectors, with hospital bed
Speaking of power:
Craig, are you still looking for batteries?
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_i...roducts_id=8484
For $31 in orders of 100 or more, this is a 6000 mAh Lithium-Polymer pack. 2000 mAh per cell. They also sell cheaper, 2000 mAh packs for half the price.
Craig, are you still looking for batteries?
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_i...roducts_id=8484
For $31 in orders of 100 or more, this is a 6000 mAh Lithium-Polymer pack. 2000 mAh per cell. They also sell cheaper, 2000 mAh packs for half the price.
Orkie
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Somehow I doubt he'll buy parts from a shop. Particularly if it only has 86 in stock .
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sam fisher
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I think he will need a lot more than 86 . Furthermore, as he has already speculated on battery life I assume he has already procured a source.
. Furthermore, as he has already speculated on battery life I assume he has already procured a source.Squidge said:Remove the unnecessary question marks from your post, and we might decide to tell yougarzyboi said:
Oh that helps a lot
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I'll just say it once. If this thing is powerful enough to do Dreamcast emulation, then I will not only buy it, but I will pre-order it asap. Without Dreamcast, it would be a bit of a hard sell for me. Though I like the wifi and GPS abilities, and PSX emu would be nice. But I'm not too big an N64 fan and it's handful of classic titles. Time will tell, but with emulation picking up for DC (I.E the NullDC emulator) I would think it should happen. This is coming from someone who isn't exactly techy, but I would pay $300+ for a handheld that could play Dreamcast at a playable speed.
That's just me, my apologies if I've all ready missed the boat for that discussion
That's just me, my apologies if I've all ready missed the boat for that discussion
icurafu
The Hallucinogenic Elf
Looks like Dreamcast on Craginator is the new N64 on GP2X.
senquack
I feel a great disturbance in the source
Dreamcast or BUST, folks..
.. dreamcast.
.. dreamcast.
atomicthumbs
I am the king of the collectors, with hospital bed
What, you don't want to play Superman 64?Vince2501 said:
[snip]Senor Quack said:
.. dreamcast.
BUST
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Squidge
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Sounds like we might as well pack up and go home, then.Senor Quack said:
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cappuchok
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About the screen - that does look very much like a Samsung part. However the only Samsung part I can find which matches the photos, is a WQVGA+ screen of 480x272 pixels (and I'm guessing Sony is blocking sales of those to "unknown projects" as it matches the PSP resolution).
Even with me not knowing a lot of programming and not knowing the extent of processing power of the Craiginator, I would still say that as emulators go, judging from what's been said in this thread by people in the know, fullspeed PSX is definitely going to happen, N64 might be possible but perhaps not entirely fullspeed (but playable, I'm sure). I'm finding it really hard, though, to believe the Craiginiator will have enough power to run a nullDC port (which is closed source so far, by the way) at even a fraction of fullspeed. Though I'd love to be proven wrong on that.
I'd rather focus on the improvement in other emulators that will be possible on the Craiginator, such as the WVGA resolution and touchscreen which will enable proper mouse-control and high-res games (CoMI, Touché...) in ScummVM, as well as proper Amiga emulation which enables use of Workbench. Emulators that have to use scalers to achieve the correct aspect ratio will not have to suffer from the crappy "nearest neighbor" scaler of the MMSP2, but might use substantially better scalers such as HQ2X or at least some less crappy scaling than "nearest neighbor". This applies to emulators of any platform which used "non-square pixels" stretched or squashed to fill a 4:3 screen, such as SegaCD, PCEngine, NES and SuperNES, CPS2 and more.
Also the power of the CPU/GPU in the Craiginator will substantially help improve emulation of many platforms such as the C64, Amiga, SNES, PSX and GBA, all of which will likely be possible to run fullspeed on the Craiginator, whereas some lack features (think SNES special chips) and/or require severe overclocking to run at a playable speed on the GP2X.
In summary, I think it warrants a pre-order anyway, or if you're hesitant, at least a purchase once the device has been evaluated on the market and we can see what improvements over the GP2X it has brought.
I believe it's been established by now, this device will not have GPS abilities (and no Bluetooth). If I'm wrong, feel free to correct.Vince2501 said:
Even with me not knowing a lot of programming and not knowing the extent of processing power of the Craiginator, I would still say that as emulators go, judging from what's been said in this thread by people in the know, fullspeed PSX is definitely going to happen, N64 might be possible but perhaps not entirely fullspeed (but playable, I'm sure). I'm finding it really hard, though, to believe the Craiginiator will have enough power to run a nullDC port (which is closed source so far, by the way) at even a fraction of fullspeed. Though I'd love to be proven wrong on that.
I'd rather focus on the improvement in other emulators that will be possible on the Craiginator, such as the WVGA resolution and touchscreen which will enable proper mouse-control and high-res games (CoMI, Touché...) in ScummVM, as well as proper Amiga emulation which enables use of Workbench. Emulators that have to use scalers to achieve the correct aspect ratio will not have to suffer from the crappy "nearest neighbor" scaler of the MMSP2, but might use substantially better scalers such as HQ2X or at least some less crappy scaling than "nearest neighbor". This applies to emulators of any platform which used "non-square pixels" stretched or squashed to fill a 4:3 screen, such as SegaCD, PCEngine, NES and SuperNES, CPS2 and more.
Also the power of the CPU/GPU in the Craiginator will substantially help improve emulation of many platforms such as the C64, Amiga, SNES, PSX and GBA, all of which will likely be possible to run fullspeed on the Craiginator, whereas some lack features (think SNES special chips) and/or require severe overclocking to run at a playable speed on the GP2X.
In summary, I think it warrants a pre-order anyway, or if you're hesitant, at least a purchase once the device has been evaluated on the market and we can see what improvements over the GP2X it has brought.
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pkostrze
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I'm currently playing Touche on the GP2X SCUMMVM; it runs fine IMO... I'm not so sure about COMI as I haven't tried it out yet.cappuchok said:
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zodttd
Solving your premature emulation since the Tapwave
A playable DOSBox!
trooper
Trooper`s watching you !!!
Seconded.zodttd said:
mobile Settlers 2, Warcraft, Warcraft 2 etc etc YAY.
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cappuchok
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It does run, but I was talking about the VGA resolution which means it can run without downscaling.pkostrze said:
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