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I wanted the 4GB for two reasons.
1.: To be able to run Firefox or other memory hungry programs.

2.: To be able to run some sort of ram disc to reduce the wear of the SD cards.

It would be sad if the 4GB get dumped.

I would wait another two months to get the 4GB version
 
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Honestly, I wanted 4GB for one reason, and that was modded Minecraft. But if it's delayed the Pyra too much, I'm regretting that. I also want lots of RAM for having a Google Keep electron app running in the taskbar, because I use it to set reminders, but I could always use something less memory hungry that does the same thing. Although it wouldn't sync, but I could just only set reminders on the Pyra itself.

In short, I think 2GB would have also been enough.

If Minecraft is a single process, then you might be out of luck even with a 4GB version.
The maximum size a single app can be on a 32bit CPU under linux is 2GB, unless things has changed.
 
If Minecraft is a single process, then you might be out of luck even with a 4GB version.
The maximum size a single app can be on a 32bit CPU under linux is 2GB, unless things has changed.

a little bit old but http://www.cs.montana.edu/~halla/aos/ "In linux the top 1GB of each 4GB virtual address space maps kernel data, the rest is user space." -> 3GB

even windows has 3 GB for 32bit systems (https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20040805-00/?p=38233 )
 
same here. i prefer wait longer (how long i can wait? i don't know yet :p ) and have a 4GB fix too, rather than having a 2GB sooner.

In any case, a fix is always a good thing for the global stability (a bug can involve an other one) and the credibility of the device.
 
In project planning, leaving an unknown major issue till the last minute is not often considered the best strategy. Normally, people spend enough time on such issues early in the R&D phase to figure out at least what they'd need to do to fix it, and only delay the actual work. In this case, the actual work is likely to be trivial compared to the figuring it out, so it's usually considered better just to do that before it blocks anything else
 
I am not sure why there is so much concern with the 4GB issue.

It is actively being worked on and it *already* works with a slightly higher voltage.
Progress might not be as fast as some people would like but it does not seems like a major show-stopper.

I don't think the 4GB issue will be the cause for delay at the end because of other delay.
In particular the case should have already be finished. Unfortunately the Greek company does not seem able to meet deadline.

I am pretty sure it work out at the end even if the mold have to be moved to another factory.
It would definitely love to see the final case being produced in the near future.
 
Uhh... making it out to sound like "Hey, it's the community's fault, great job holding it up guys, if only you would've picked 2GB this would've been easier" is pretty rude of you.
A little bit of background to these sentiments can be found here

the 72% of the community that wants a 4GB unit
By my calculation approximately 92% of pre orders are for a 4GB unit

there is no currently known work-around that makes 4GB stable on more than one board.
What do you mean by more than one board? 1 revision? 1 particular board but others of that revision do not work?

1. The community pushed for a pre-sale specification that
2. Had no working/operational example and
3. Was not necessary for launch units and
4. Has no current sane need/use.....


4GB only exists as an order option because of irrational hype & fear driven by a few and followed by too many

1) & 2) Where did the community push for this? I personally requested that tests be done before pre ordering that would give an idea if 4GB of Ram would be a worthy / sensible option. I'd still love to see the results of such testing but I guess that will depend on whether the 4GB issue is solved and (if it is solved) it is decided that it is worth producing the 2GB model (as only 8% of orders are for the 2GB version).

3) Yet 92% chose the 4GB version

4) Running an Android VM with 1GB dedicated, and doing some multi tab browsing or high resolution image editing at the same time would tax 2GB IMHO (utterly insane!). Again, without knowing swap performance I've no idea if 4GB is 'necessary'. But what I do know is that in my 40 years I've spent around computers I've never heard the phrase 'I wish I had a bit less RAM' (until now, I guess).
 
My IGEPv5 works fine with 4GB RAM.
https://www.cnx-software.com/2014/0...lopment-board-is-now-available-for-149-euros/

So you would have the ISEE version then? 2Ghz & 4GB RAM & Ubuntu support & git repository?
"The company provides support for Ubuntu, Open Embedded, Android as well as others operating systems via IGEP Community Wiki, which currently includes a quick start guide and a link to IGEPv5 hardware reference manual. You can also have a look at the git repository for Linux, U-boot, and more, and access IGEPv5 CE support forum for any questions."

Does it run stable at 2Ghz with 4GB RAM under Ubuntu?
 
1. The community pushed for a pre-sale specification that 2. Had no working/operational example and 3. Was not necessary for launch units and 4. Has no current sane need/use.

...

I know of no examples of working devices that reliably use 4GB or 8GB of RAM on an OMAP. Does anyone?

If they solve it, fantastic. But, personally, I don't see only 2GB as a show stopper. 4GB only exists as an order option because of irrational hype & fear driven by a few and followed by too many.

So to summarise what you're saying: the specification for the Pyra as advertised, and pre-ordered by ~90% of individuals, was inadequately researched and ill-conceived from the start? Or did I misunderstand?

Somehow I doubt that this was actually the case.

Like a few others, I simply want the best specification possible for the price, but lack the technical knowledge here regarding what is actually feasible, or practical.
 
So to summarise what you're saying: the specification for the Pyra as advertised, and pre-ordered by ~90% of individuals, was inadequately researched and ill-conceived from the start? Or did I misunderstand?

Somehow I doubt that this was actually the case.

Like a few others, I simply want the best specification possible for the price, but lack the technical knowledge here regarding what is actually feasible, or practical.

Yes inadequately researched and ill-conceived. Seems to have been offered as a result of irrational community pressures before it could be properly researched.

Doubt all you want. Read the history and the piles of posts from @Mr_Loon pushing for it and @TrashyMG responses proving through testing & videos of it being wholy unnecessary.

People ordered, "The best" spec. The price difference was small. That is natural & normal when presented that choice. It is why car dealers do not bother to stock, "base models".

At best it gives $pec $heet Credit$ and some theoretical RAM headroom -beyond what the OMAP can keep up with processing (actual testing)- at expense of 5-15% battery life penalty. But, very few of the people ordering saw or understood these points and, Moar is Better, right?
 
I plan also to do some Java-programming on the Pyra, while travelling.
(Web-Applications with Eclipse as IDE and Firefox or any other browser)
I'm afraid this is not feasible with 2GB of RAM.
 
If the boards have to be reduced to 2GB, I don't know if I'd be still willing to keep up with the pre-order to be completely honest.
As I would be paying a premium for postage and the device that would be kinda underpowered to something like a GPD-Win which is quite a bit cheaper.
The absolute main reason I pre-ordered the pyra was for 3G web browsing which takes quite a chunk of the ram out.

Like right now I haven't got much here open and I'm halfway through my ram (although Windows 10 is bloated a bit but you get what I mean)
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I wouldn't mind the extra voltage for the extra 2GB but hopefully there will be a better solution.
 
This is windows memory usage. While working on my pyra i'm rarely using more than 300MB of memory. that leave 1.7G for your firefox. more than enough...

EDIT: but as far as i'm aware, the 4GB memory is still a target and wont be left behind...
 
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